2 512 BBi's at Bonhams Scotttsdale

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22205/lot/102/

#52775

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22205/lot/184/

#40999

Look to both come from the same owner.
Reserves seem a bit low- esp considering some of the other Ferrari reserves that look to be optimistic IMO.
Perhaps the amount of refurbishment is more then shows in the pictures.

 

The black car serial # is in the uber zone
You could not get a better id#
Should go near 400 +and then some change!

Auction listed it low to garner bidders no doubt!

 

figure 25k-35k to fully sort. Black car looks sweet.

 

whats the piece of metal showing in the front grill bottom of the black one?

i see the amerispec sticker on the red one - that is a good thing since they did the best conversion imo. btw, you can get copies of all of the original docs for that car from dick fritz.

 

seems rather low. would expect a two handle at minimum and possibly a 3. these may go cheaply!!

 

Well we are going to get a very good look at whata BBi is worth at this auction.

Who is bidding, I say we buy the black one an d send to newman.

 

This is the range Hagerty gives for these cars on their "Valuation" tool. When the hammer falls you will see what someone is willing to spend and as we all know pictures are very hard to determine as to the true condition of a car. Has it been started?, The front look very low and the rear looks like plenty of rust and grunge on suspension and exhaust.

My guess is every system needs to be redone. Probably would push upwards of 40K to get this car sorted and not have worries, if it does not run and if the rings or other internal engine parts are damaged who knows.

Black car should sell for over $250K from the info we have been given by people looking for a Boxer on this site in the last 6 months.

 

52775 is the 10th last boxer built according to my list.

 

bumpers need redoing. Dash warped. If mtor not seized the injection needs doing plus all the usual bits.

Shocks need redoing as will be brake calipers. all hoses everywhere, probably need to recore the radiator to be safe.

Interior looks Ok.

So the question, what shape is the paint in. What does underside look like.

At 180-200k you woudl probably come out ok in static market ie at 250k once runnign properly.

But done right its a meuseum car, something in theory still very orig so it may stretch to 300k.

If you think boxers are going to go up over 5 years this is probably the one to get, once redone have a great car for 250k where everythign works.

Anybody going to be there who can check it out, I am interested.

 

Additionally we may get a sense of price spread bbi v bb carb and here his how. Using the numbers from above, recall the dusty red modified bb from NV that gullwing bought, sold, re-bought then recently sold again with ask of $259k? Well, somebody remains very bullish on the market.

I just left the shop that has the car and is doing a fair amount of work; recall dash/console/ac changes need correcting; major service; checking all systems etc etc...paint looks very nice as does remaining interior. I understand that the car will be offered for sale when work completed. I do not know the potential asking price.

Jack

 

Will try to get there and take comprehensive pics.

 

questions for newman.

- when you say the dash is warped, are you referring to the leather over the glove box riding up into a 'smile'? if so, then i read an interesting thread on here a while back about how the guy took it apart and rubbed the inside with body lotion, hung some weights on it, and stretched it back out, and then glued it back into place to make a straight line again. do you have a better way?

- and again, what is that piece of metal sticking out of the bottom of the left side of the grill on the black one?

 

My Guess:
A front license plate bracket (possibly from a US version 308) was attached to the front bumper and appears to be either severely bent or partially dismounted.

Dave

 

I am buying them both, for $140k each. I am also hiring a N Korean hacker to take down the auction website, just after my bids are in.

 

I suspect the black car will bring at least double the estimated range. The Boxer was the most undervalued Ferrari of all and the reality is the final year BBis are the best of them.