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Old 06-29-2017, 11:18 PM
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My question is.... where do they go from here?

It seems they are trapped in a box in both the looks, the performance and the basic idea.

Will 2000 HP impress anyone after 1500?
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Old 06-30-2017, 07:51 AM
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It is a veyron just updated. helps vw recoup development cost and it will sell out. The next car will have to be all new imo.
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:48 PM
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My question is.... where do they go from here?

It seems they are trapped in a box in both the looks, the performance and the basic idea.

Will 2000 HP impress anyone after 1500?

I think they should have broken the mold in the looks and taken a bigger step away from the Veyron -- if for no other reason than "to do it".
I don't think they'll feel the need to provide a bigger HP number next time via the internal combustion engine. They can always slap an electric motor on it for the next model to make it a hybrid and crank up the power that way artificially (meaning it's pointless to go up other than for marketing aka "evolution"). It will be easier for them to say they made it more powerful by doing each iteration performance increase via electric. Buyers will have no clue or care really. It's like with the LaF and P1. I've noticed people quote the combined hybrid power on those cars...900+...and rarely (almost never) the individual combustion one.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:31 PM
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Two different Chirons in Greenwich, CT this week. The car has a great presence on the road and has definitely grown on me since its initial unveiling.
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Old 07-28-2017, 02:12 PM
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1,500-Horsepower Bugatti Chiron Gets EPA Rating - Motor Trend

Wow. You'll be able to go less than 100 miles between fill ups best case. That's nuts...
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:53 PM
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It seems like this horsepower and top speed struggle is a bubble waiting to be popped by something truly original.

What's the word on the Regera? When will the car be available to the press?
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:00 PM
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I don't think it ever will be available to the press. They just produce too few cars.
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:11 PM
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Why is the fuel tank only 9 gallons? The Veyron had over 25.

I think the Valkyrie is going to put an end to high HP and Vmax with how special it will be.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:37 AM
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Why is the fuel tank only 9 gallons? The Veyron had over 25.

I think the Valkyrie is going to put an end to high HP and Vmax with how special it will be.
If LAF/P1/918 couldn't put an end to it then the super limited production Valkyrie will not.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:20 AM
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If LAF/P1/918 couldn't put an end to it then the super limited production Valkyrie will not.
The Valkyrie is nothing like the other 3 and is in a different category. It's essentially a 2,250 lb road-going LMP car designed by one of the best race car designers in history. The Veyron and Chiron are in a different class than the LaF/P1/918 as well. The AMG Project One should not be compared to the LaF/P1/918 for that matter. The engineering of the LaF/P1/918 is not at the same level as the Valkyrie/Chiron/Project One.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:41 AM
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The Valkyrie is nothing like the other 3 and is in a different category. It's essentially a 2,250 lb road-going LMP car designed by one of the best race car designers in history. The Veyron and Chiron are in a different class than the LaF/P1/918 as well. The AMG Project One should not be compared to the LaF/P1/918 for that matter. The engineering of the LaF/P1/918 is not at the same level as the Valkyrie/Chiron/Project One.
Oh I beg to differ. The engineering was revolutionary. They were the biggest leap in automotive engineering since the Veyron from arguably the three biggest exotic producers (Mclaren not as big as the others). They were much quicker than anything else (still are, really), stronger breaks, amazing looks and efficiency. They didn't chase top soeed, all three max out 215-220 mph. And still Bugatti went for 280+ with the Chiron, less than 10 mpg, 4400 pounds.

The Valkyrie will exist. No one will ever see it. No magazine will ever test it. They'll barely get driven. The tech in it is incredible, no doubt, but it won't influence the automotive landscape anywhere near what the 3 hybrids have. How many Ksegg Regeras have we seen out and about?

At least thats my opinion
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:59 AM
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The Valkyrie will exist. No one will ever see it. No magazine will ever test it. They'll barely get driven. The tech in it is incredible, no doubt, but it won't influence the automotive landscape anywhere near what the 3 hybrids have. How many Ksegg Regeras have we seen out and about?

At least thats my opinion
I agree that it won't influence, but I don't think any new hypercar will. They're a dying breed. All cars will be eventually replaced with electric-only power sources. The only thing people will care for by then is a charging cable that is compatible with their car like we have today with phones.
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Old 07-29-2017, 11:07 AM
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I agree that it won't influence, but I don't think any new hypercar will. They're a dying breed. All cars will be eventually replaced with electric-only power sources. The only thing people will care for by then is a charging cable that is compatible with their car like we have today with phones.
I agree with you there but I hope we are both wrong.
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1,500-Horsepower Bugatti Chiron Gets EPA Rating - Motor Trend

Wow. You'll be able to go less than 100 miles between fill ups best case. That's nuts...
Not sure where motortrend journalist got their info, but tank is 26 gallons. So that's 260 miles or so per fill up. Not good but better than Veyron.

On the subject of fluids, topped up with fuel and other fluids, the Chiron's kerb weight increases about 400 pounds versus it's dry weight.
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:51 AM
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I came across with that. It looks very nicely specced.

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I came across with that. It looks very nicely specced.

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Old 08-18-2017, 12:33 PM
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Meh, maybe if you own Pittsburgh steelers
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:35 PM
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Meh, maybe if you own Pittsburgh steelers
That's what I was thinking.
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