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Apple IOS in the new Cal T?

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  1. TheMayor

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    I really hope they don't use Apple maps for navigation.....it sucks! ;-)
     
  3. jumpinjohn

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    I really hope they use the interface with pinch to zoom and easily move the map. Apple maps is so so but so are the rest...
     
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    If so I hope it works out better for Ferrari than Microsoft has for Ford.
     
  5. Traveller

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    I can tell you it will be the first system to run iOS. All apps etc on your iPhone will appear on screen. It sounds fantastic but hope they have sorted the maps.
     
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    I think the Ford system is pretty good for playing music and making calls. But maps irritate me. My biggest gripe is soft buttons on the screen for climate or seat heaters etc. can't do anything if it is in reverse...
     
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    Here's how it works. Unfortunately it looks like they are running Apple Maps. Hopefully they'll allow you to run the Google Maps app on there too, not to mention there is already a built in nav system. Very excited about this system and hope that they let me hook up my iphone yo one of the cars next week so I can demo it first hand.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cynaDmcGLNw]FF and Apple CarPlay - Ferrari world première - YouTube[/ame]
     
  8. TheMayor

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    My issue is what happens when you are out of cell coverage.
     
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    I wonder if you can download other apps like Google maps
     
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    If Apple allows it. That's really the biggest single issue. Apple has complete control of what can and cannot play on their IOS.
     
  11. F2003-GA

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    Then Android might be more appealing
     
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    Android is also in some auto systems.
     
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    I wonder what this system "gives" people who don't have/want an iPhone....
    It seems like it is mostly taking all the data from your iphone and that's it so if you don't have one you don't have much :(
     
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    It's going to be a feature on all new Ferrari's, starting off with the FF (already has iPad's on the headrests as an option) and Cali T. It should also be noted that the new Ferrari telemetry system has an iPad app.
     
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    Even though I use mac stuff and have had an iPhone since the first, this is not a really big deal for me. I mostly want the native head unit to be useable.

    In the car, I mostly listen to XM/Sirius radio. Not great cell internet service here, so I never use Pandora in the car. I do sometimes listen to iTunes, never use handsfree phone in the Cali because it is too loud. So even though I am an apple guy, the apple stuff in the car is not a big deal. HOWEVER, I really like the idea of a resistive touchscreen!
     
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    Correct on the headrests, but no incorporation in the dash until the facelift.
     
  18. MisterMaranello

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    CarPlay will be available on the FF shortly. Perhaps you misunderstood and thought I was on about future iPad integration?

    Quote LdM: "I'm very pleased and proud to announce this important collaboration, we are the first in the world to commercialise our car, the FF, with this very innovative system."

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEF2FNqVk-Q[/ame]
     
  19. TheMayor

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    Ok...some big problems right off the bat.

    1) It doesn't work with Android as far as we know. They didn't mention Android or Windows capability. Apple is not the leading phone company in Europe. How do you use this new system if you have Android? Windows may be zero in the US but Nokia uses it in Europe.

    2) The features they are showing needs a phone connection. What if you forget your phone? Does it still work? Can you still use Siri or maps? Is your music in the cloud or previously uploaded to the car?

    3) What if you are out of a cell network? I can tell you from personal experience that many parts of the US have poor or no service for cell phones. And different carriers have better or worse service.

    4) Net traffic. I was in Europe last month and some places have net traffic problems. Internet speeds were inconsistent and sometimes overloaded. I think from my experience 4G is more common in the US than Europe.

    5) Not everyone has unlimited data plans. Are you going to be hit with a surprise bill at the end of the month?

    6) What happens when your phone is obsolete? You know it will happen. Technology moves at a very rapid pace. Can you upgrade the software --- or maybe even the hardware to keep them compatible? If someone buys this car 10 years from now, will these features still work?


    Now, the answer to 2 may be that they include a phone in the car. My Corvette C7 also is a phone in itself so that if you lose your phone, you can still make a call from the car. But, it costs money to pay for the service. No pay, no service. And it's only audio -- not data -- so it's cheap.


    Whenever you start something new, you start creating new problems. It will be interesting to see how they work it out.

    One thing my GF said she didn't like about the touch screen in my C7. She says the screen always looks dirty with fingerprints all over it. She has a point.
     
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    GPS directions are still available without cellular data if a route is already in progress. However, traffic and route changes won't be available. Obviously, data sensitive apps like iRadio and spotify will stop working. I never stream radio or youtube over cellular data, only WiFi. I wonder if you could use the stock radio or satellite radio with the Apple maps. I also wonder how many apps will be native to carplay. Waze is a great GPS app.
     
  21. MisterMaranello

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    1) Not a problem :) :)

    2) Obviously it's going to be cell phone reliant. It's Apple's version of bluetooth connectivity, on steriods.

    3) What does this have to do with CarPlay? Poor cell reception is a carrier issue.

    4) 4G infrastructure is being rolled out at a good pace all over Europe to cope with tomorrows digital infrastructural needs

    5) What does this have to do with CarPlay? If you can afford a Ferrari that is so new it has CarPlay installed, you can afford to get an upgraded data plan if it becomes an issue.

    6) Something I'm 99% certain Apple has thought of and has a market strategy for. We will probably hear more about software updates and possible backwards compability when the time comes.

    You're raising quite a few "non-issues" here Bob. :) If your touchscreen gets dirty og greasy with fingermarks, buy a 0.99 screen cleaner and spend 10 seconds cleaning the screen when it's excessively dirty. It's the same thing as saying "my GF doesn't like that my car is dirty. She says the car always looks dirty with mud - she has a point". Well, wash the car. ;)
     
  22. TheMayor

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    Yes but no one has answered the "non-Apple" phone issue yet. That to me is a problem, especially in Europe. Phones there aren't cheap like they are in the US. And in the US, people get locked into plans for years sometimes.

    People also LIKE their phones and don't like switching that much. It's a hassle.
     
  23. MisterMaranello

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    In my region over 60% of smartphones are iPhone's.
     
  24. TheMayor

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    40% is still a lot of people. A lot.

    And, people will switch if there is something "cooler". Apple has gotten a lot of criticism for the Iphone 5 as not been innovative enough compared to others.
     
  25. MisterMaranello

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    Considering iPhone's are also a vast majority amongst the target audience for products or vehicles in the Ferrari price range. I don't really know of too many owners who don't have an iPhone.

    Anyways, Apple develops this product. Ferrari probably didn't pay anything towards CarPlay R&D. If Google want to make a similar system, go ahead! Why should Ferrari bother spending money it, they make cars, not multi media systems

    I very much doubt someone will say "Ah, no I'm not going to purchase a $300,000 supercar because I don't have an iPhone". Apple have taken the initiative to develop such a system, and they should get the credit and first movers advantage for it. It's not Apple's nor Ferrari's fault or problem that Google hasn't come out with such a system for Android units, yet. It's the Android users' loss that there is no such system, but it is not the responsibility of competing companies to develop such a system for Google products, nor is it that of those companies who purchase and utilise it.
     

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