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Ferrari should bring a new team principal as well.
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"There will be no new chassis"

30 April 2012 - 11h51, by GMM*
Ferrari will not run all of its planned car improvements at the Mugello test this week.

"My information is that the new single seater is not ready," reported Livio Oricchio, the correspondent for O Estado de S.Paulo newspaper.

There has been speculation that, following Ferrariís troubled start to the new championship with its F2012 car, the changes for the forthcoming Barcelona race will be so sweeping that it might be called a "B" version.

But technical director Pat Fry reportedly told Oricchio that Ferrari designers are "staying with the (current) front suspension"; a reference to the Maranello based teamís innovative use of pullrod technology this year.

And the well-informed journalist Dimitris Papadopoulos adds that, even though the Mugello-spec Ferrari will have a new nose, sidepods and wings, "there will be no new chassis".
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And the well-informed journalist Dimitris Papadopoulos adds that, even though the Mugello-spec Ferrari will have a new nose, sidepods and wings, "there will be no new chassis".

I know Dimi and he is extremely reliable. That guy is the James Bond of F1 inside information. I wasn't expecting F2012 to be a new chassis, matter of fact I don't think anyone was. Just new sidepods, wings, and nose.

Anyone care to wager they'll have a super DRS? I have heard that's what the new nose is incorporating.
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I know Dimi and he is extremely reliable. That guy is the James Bond of F1 inside information. I wasn't expecting F2012 to be a new chassis, matter of fact I don't think anyone was. Just new sidepods, wings, and nose.

Anyone care to wager they'll have a super DRS? I have heard that's what the new nose is incorporating.
Im glad they are doing something, but if they dont find .6 or more they will not contend.
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Im glad they are doing something, but if they dont find .6 or more they will not contend.
They won't find .600 without a miracle or a magic bullet. .2-.3 is a more realistic goal with these updates, and then they have to hope other teams haven't found more than that! Such as Mercedes and Red Bull who are really pushing.
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From Autosport, on Ferrari's plans;

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The team said it will use the first two days to carry out exhaust solutions comparisons and that it will introduce 'more significant updates' on the final day.
Seems Viz' theory that it's the ass-end that's the problem may be about right - Gotta get the gases flowing where you want 'em seems to be the key right now.

Wonder what they're keeping under wraps till Thursday? The (required!) magic bullet?.......

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They won't find .600 without a miracle or a magic bullet. .2-.3 is a more realistic goal with these updates, and then they have to hope other teams haven't found more than that! Such as Mercedes and Red Bull who are really pushing.
It'll have to be enough and hopefully Alonso's sheer talent can push Ferrari into contention.
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From Autosport, on Ferrari's plans;



Seems Viz' theory that it's the ass-end that's the problem may be about right - Gotta get the gases flowing where you want 'em seems to be the key right now.

Wonder what they're keeping under wraps till Thursday? The (required!) magic bullet?.......

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They won't find .600 without a miracle or a magic bullet. .2-.3 is a more realistic goal with these updates, and then they have to hope other teams haven't found more than that! Such as Mercedes and Red Bull who are really pushing.
So true and they dont need much tweaking to keep Ferrari at bay. As always one of them could go backwards! Not likely these days.
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...As always one of them could go backwards! Not likely these days.
Not if it's Schumacher behind the wheel, happens almost all the time =O
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I heard Mclaren have a mechanically adjustable rear wheel brake duct which essentially aids in controlling how much air is flowing around the tire thus aiding tire temp management. Openin the duct around the brake disc sends more heat thru the wheel to increase tyr temp. A legal way to manage tyre temps
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I heard Mclaren have a mechanically adjustable rear wheel brake duct which essentially aids in controlling how much air is flowing around the tire thus aiding tire temp management. Openin the duct around the brake disc sends more heat thru the wheel to increase tyr temp. A legal way to manage tyre temps
Very clever solution!
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I heard Mclaren have a mechanically adjustable rear wheel brake duct which essentially aids in controlling how much air is flowing around the tire thus aiding tire temp management. Openin the duct around the brake disc sends more heat thru the wheel to increase tyr temp. A legal way to manage tyre temps
By mechanically adjustable do you mean driver actuated?
If so they may be looking to sneak through the legal door MB opened with their new duct.
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By mechanically adjustable do you mean driver actuated?
If so they may be looking to sneak through the legal door MB opened with their new duct.
Driver actuated mechanism would be illegal.
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Driver actuated mechanism would be illegal.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:02 AM
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Ferrari will have their full upgrade pack by the end of the week. We can tell what they're doing with the exhaust though, which is blowing the diffuser or at least the upper floor. The bottom half of the pipe extends in a downward direction straight to the floor and back.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:05 AM
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RB8 clearly testing exhaust gas flow and a taller outboard upper wing element very similar to what Mercedes have now. The wing may or may not be new there, just looks a little different. Need better pics
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:06 AM
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W03 running a new floor with revised fins. The front wing upper/outer element is also revised (taller)
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:10 AM
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Williams sporting a new and very nice exhaust. New front wing, diffuser. They really have changed quite a bit. B-spec car. Impressed
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:12 AM
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Sauber have a Mclaren style exhaust now
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