Why not - Ferrari do it RB also needs to do it - or maybe BMW will step in ?
Dede won't blow that kind of capital, and it would be financially unwise to start an engine facility for the sole purpose being their one F1 engine and perhaps supply a team or two. Red Bull are an energy drinks company who moonlight as an F1 team, albeit a very good one they have no reason staffing a 400 odd person engine manufacturing team -which they know little regarding. It would be 2016 until they had anything up and going then they are going up against the likes of the best engine manufacturers in the world who already have a couple year head start. Yeah, won't happen.
Starting from scratch would be a huge undertaking. A near folly, I think. Badging an engine from another source as Red Bull would be a solution. It is rumoured that, even without customers at present, just to keep its hands in the game, Cosworth has discreetly designed a powerplant satisfying the current rule and use it as a test bed for further experiments. Toyota is also rumoured to have an F1 engine on the dyno, and they seem to know a lot about hybrids ... With the suitable inducement (Red Bull money), they may consider a return in F1 as engine supplier only, like Honda. But their endurance programme has priority at the moment.
Seems like Marko and Dieter talk tough.If I were Carlos Ghosn I would tell them to go **** themselves for making public statements that hurt Renault's brand image
No. I'd much rather see them sell their own supercar for the road. Powered by a Renault engine or whatever.
All he's doing is embarrassing Renault to kick it up a notch. This is a media/ PR campaign to shift blame.
Renault should come out with a statement that if RBR doesn't get that tub of **** up to speed they are out.
I cannot see Renault being very happy with their exposure at the moment. RB isn't performing miracles any more; TR isn't exactly terrific. As for Lotus and Caterham, they are in the doldrums. The engine is constantly being slagged off from all quarters. Carlos Goshn must ponder about Renault's continued effort in F1, surely.
Renault has been through this many times before. In fact I expected them to struggle this season just as they did the last time the engine formula was changed. Back then they cost Vettel the title. Same as this season. But they will stick it out and get there eventually. Next year they will be back.
Depends if they are committed to f1 for the next 30 years and see a return on the capital required to set everything up and develop it. Probably easier paying a manufacturer.
Hmm good question. My elephant memory is more like a gnat now. You might be right though. What I do remember however was that it took Renault a couple of seasons to iron out their engines until they stopped blowing up. I'd say that a Renault slightly down in power in a Newey chassis is a match for a stronger MB. But to finish first, you first have to finish
It is easier to say than done. I think that unless you have a manufacture's backing, it is very difficult for a team to do both the chassis and engine on their own. However, to be able to achieve that, IMO, puts the team above all others. If it was easy, I would think that McLaren and Williams would have done so a long time ago.
Why not? #1 reason is the head of Red Bull came out and said he didn't think this engine formula sounded good enough - why put your brand on something you don't like?
He always has been pondering...he is not very enthusiastic about racing at all, his attitude towards Renault involvement in Formula One has been very ambiguous for quite some time, just as if he does not know exactly what to do with this. Lots of people here in France were fearing that he would stop all involvement with racing last year when his XO, Carlos Tavares, who is a real racing enthusiast, left the company (for Peugeot, ultimately). Renault does not really makes any advertising here about their Formula One involvement, even when Red Bull was winning everything. In fact they are not at ease with their racing heritage anymore: see the embarassment they are in with the brand "Alpine", for instance: they bought the brand and put it on a shelf for thirty years, then announced a year ago that there will be a new Alpine after all, built in collaboration with Caterham, then, last week, announced that the deal with Caterham is over, but that there will be a new Alpine nevertheless... That left you wondering why, actually, they are doing this? Rgds
