The Secret to Mercedes' PU Dominance thus far?

Well, there you go. This was already discussed a bit I believe.

 

Story was broken by Motorsport magazine last week.

 

Been known for a while. All Merc powered cars have this obviously, Merc's chassis is just that much better too, it's not just the power unit

 

It also seems they started their development from the get go(or maybe before?).

 

Good for them. They deserve the titles coming their way.

Renaissance of the Silberpfeile

 

The principle can be copied, but not quickly and probably not to sufficient effect without a new chassis designed to take full advantage of the aero and weight distribution benefits.

 

Can it? I figured this was caught under the engine development freeze. Is it not? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I haven't had too much time to figure all the rules out this year.

 

I'm not that familiar with Homologation rules But I do Not think they will allow a complete redrawing of the engine design.
Maybe internal parts can be changed for reliability purposes. I doubt the others can copy Merc for the next 2 seasons - IMO

 

I would think it would be a heat soak advantage as well.

 

Meanwhile Ferrari's main update at today's tests seemed the front brake air duct expelling air from the wheel nut, as in last year's Red Bulls and Williams. Hope there's more.

 

Interesting how they are using the Ferrari as an example of how not to do it.

 

One would think that having the compressor and the front and the exhaust part at the back would mean a heavy and long shaft in the middle that requires a lot of energy to get moving. I guess the electric motor that drives the compressor helps here ... ?

It is extremely logical and great thinking and finally makes turbocharged engines the ultimate. Even when dropping a turbo on your family car you have always had to choose between long exhaust or long inlet manifold ... now you can eliminate both and come out on top!

I can see aftermarket turbos coming out like this very soon, with an electric motor in the middle that can be controlled by a simple logic sequence taking boost, engine rpm and throttle position as the inputs.
Pete

 

Thanks for the video, very nice

 

I just ordered one for my civic.

 

Thanks for the link, great video.

 

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/f1/441139-mb-engine-innovative-turbo-arrangement.html

 

Family cars have inline-four transverse engines, so I don´t think this setup would really make a difference.

 

Yes it would because all engines nowadays are cross-flow. This solution enables the turbo to be say above the gearbox on a front wheel drive car at 90 degrees to the crankshaft and would permit shorter exhaust manifold and also inlet manifold.

Currently they have to choose: Turbo on exhaust side or turbo on inlet side and accept either compromises.
Pete

 

Are the customer p/u's setup like that?

 

I guess so..... I'm pretty sure they can only homologate one design, so they've all got it.

Cheers,
Ian

 

I don´t get it. How do you connect the turbine and the compressor then? In this F1 engine they can put a shaft between the banks because the turbine and the compressor remain aligned.