What the hell is wrong with Ferrari's F1 team

Domenicali hasn't been gone for very long. By next season we should have a better idea if Mattiacci is the right man for the job. It's been a frustrating period to be a Ferrari formula 1 fan, but there is a natural ebb and flow to sports and they will rise again.

 

I share your frustration with the Scuderia, but have to admit I'm glad to see Mercedes coming out on top instead of Red Bull this year

 

The rules are such that while Ferrari have a good idea how they could improve the engine, they aren't allowed to do it till next season. In the case of the car, the restrictions on testing mean that you can really only develop new parts actually at GPs, which means you have to take a chance they will work for a race, or not, and when the car is capable of points already, it's a tough call. Ferrari already accepted they won't get the title this year, it's been obvious since the first race or two, and they are effectively racing for a place in the WCC, maybe second thru third, if they can capitalise on red bulls growing issues (they have a problem with the accelerated use of parts that are use-limited which may start affecting race positions/points), so that's our lot this year

At least we aren't Seb Vettel, he must have run to the podium interviews and begged Matk Webber to have his car back. I enjoyed him struggling at first given all the races he took from us, but now I actually feel sorry for the little German sausage.

 

Cliched question that only will get cliched answers. Even the guys in the team probably don´t know where the problem is, so why do you think that some morons in an internet forum will know better?

 

Luca's ego and the rest trickles down because of it.

The (new) engineers weren't allowed to do things they want (needed) to do up until Mattiachi was forced on LdM.

Hopefully it can now all change.

 

Some of you obviously have not been watching F1 for that long. The rest of us watched this ***** for 21 years. Again the team is very Italian and it's great fun but oh so frustrating ...

But remember F1 isn't easy. Just ask Frank Williams and Ron (at the moment)
Pete

 

Ferrari just did a terrible job figuring out this formula, and now they're stuck with what they have because of the testing and development restrictions. Meanwhile, Mercedes nailed it and are running away with the constructor's championship.

Sure, there are team issues, but there are always team issues with Ferrari. It's just that nobody cares when they're winning.

After 40 years of following F1, I can say if you don't like the current standings and formula, just wait a while. It will all change again, and in one of those changes, Ferrari will be back on top.

Cheers,

George

 

The slow decay started when Brawn took his sabbatical. Luca was then able to edge out Todt Michael and the rest of the foreign elements. It's been down hill since then.

Fiat is exerting its influence but it remains to be seen if effective change is in the works.

 

Italy is able to win the world cup so why can not Ferrari win with an Italian lineup?

 

They keep losing and Elkann will oust LdM.

 

I think Ferrari are suffering from multi dysfunctional leadership. where each person thinks they know better... and its being done by committee.... big... big problem.

If you look at teams that are successful - usually ( not always ) but usually they have two things going : 1. One Chief designer who is calling the shots. 2. Team leader where the buck stops with them..... then they have good or great drivers.

Ferrari has none of the above now. While its easy to say its an Italian thing, really its a having a bunch of HIGHLY paid people who all think others are idiots....

Montezemolo needs to be involved and stay involved. not just parachute in here and there....

Tactically - they are stuck with the engine - sucks - and chassis - not bad, but its not a package that will be a winning combo soon.

next year highly doubtful that Alonso will be there - most likely will be mutual... Riakkonen.... should just go away... and they need Vettle and Hulkenburg or Button. OR complete wild short - Alex Rossi.

 

Heh. Vettel at Ferrari. I can see the exploding heads already.

Cheers,

George
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I maybe not fully "up to date", as I have no interest in soccer whatsoever, but the last time I heard of them in the world cup, they were not exactly "scintillating" ?
I brought some coffe from Costa Rica to the office this morning for my Italian collegues, they were not exactly amused...they found it "somewhat bitter".

Rgds

 

Don't agree with much of the suggestions. Luca needs to be removed as far away as possible and count his money or something.

Perez regularly is ahead of Hulkenberg these days (his downside is that he smashes his cars up a bit more often). I don't think Hulkenberg is the 2nd coming in turns of speed. He's had some excellent weekends over the years, but that's really it.

Alex Rossi...please don't make me laugh. He's not bad for an American coming to race in Europe, but he's raced long enough now to have proven he's nothing more than a mid fielder. Nice chap, does alright in quali but almost always goes backwards in races.

Everyone knows I'm a massive Kimi fan but I'd be very happy if Vettel comes next.

 

Lol what...

 

Luca signing on to the test ban negated a big Ferrari advantage, Fiorano.
The fact that the wind tunnel sucked for so long hurt as well.

 

Just as in the late 80s and early 90s when Fiorio was in charge, too many generals
and not enough sergeants.

BHW

 

Spaghetti politics, as Lauda put it.


Honestly I wish they'd just hand the F1 team to the AF Corse guys, they seem to be doing a good job.

 

I was contemplating yet another lackluster season on Sunday afternoon and came to pretty much the same conclusion. I hate that we're not doing better, but I take some comfort in knowing that the Mercs are taking it to RB and everyone else. My only wish would be that Schumacher were still with the team - It could have been an amazing season in that regard...

 

Ferrari came into this season believing that they had a good car, they built the car they wanted and planned to build. The problem is, Mercedes built a better power unit. for those of us who have decades of F1 watching under our belts, this is nothing new, every time there is a major rule change someone gets more right then everyone else, and they run away with the championship.

 

It's not even the PU that is the whole problem. The car is just fundamentally terrible. Watching an onboard from Alonso or Kimi is all you need to know about how bad the chassis is.

 

That has been my 30+yr experience as well, I liked the 'ebb and flow' comment.

 

Yup.

The car is all over the place for both, they have to endlessly fight it.

 

"...so why do you think that some morons in an internet forum will know better? "

Geeze, now we're not going to have the internet anymore!