What is wrong with Kimi?

Kimi sucks. Simple as that. He's past it and people need to stop making excuses for him in the kimi sucks thread

 

Everything around Alonso every season at Ferrari is crap, the car is crap, co driver is crap, but alonso is the greatest ever so have no fear.

 

The car sucks and he hates it. Period. He didn't forget how to drive. People keep complaining and comparing him to Massa. They need to compare Kimi Massa and Barrichello.

 

If you referring to the latest race, his car was damaged.

 

As a Kimi fan, I am obviously not enjoying any of this and I will make no excuses for him, but why does Ferrari keep him on his tires 3 or 4 or 5 or so laps longer than Alonso every race. They are forcing him backwards when he doesn't need the help.

 

They already did it with massa and i never understood...

 

But, but, but....Alonso is great at developing the car!!! Well at least that's what Fchat told me time and time again.



Mark

 

more importantly how many television sets has LDM shot this year?
CH

 

They were messing up with you!!

 

Kimi is past it. Lotus last year was a good car...

 

And Kimi was a good driver...i still think he is

 

In this era of no testing drivers have nothing to do with developing the car. Asinine to think otherwise. Face it, Alonso is the best out there, but his detractors love to try and make things up to explain Ferrari's lack of success.

That said, this thread is juvenile. References to Kimi being drunk or high? C'mon. He was just never as good as Alonso his whole career and it has been exacerbated by this new generation of car which he clearly hates. Alonso is the best of all time at taking a poor car and getting results, Kimi has always been terrible at it. When the car is great, Kimi can be exceptional.

 

Two things.

Kimi has gotten run into or outright DNF-ed pretty much every race I've watched.

The one's he hasn't, as pointed out, Ferrari runs a seemingly innane tire strategy....

Looking at Alonso's history, one can see why it is this way. Alonso can win races in an under performing car when a teammate stuff's it into the wall to bring out a safety car, etc...

Knowing how tires hold up, by putting the "C" driver out there longer, gives the team valuable data for their "A" driver. Sure you screw up one car's finish, but you have a better chance of getting the other one on a podium - and its far more prestigious to have a 3rd-12th than a 4th-5th.

Unless you openly fight back like Hamilton did, there will always be "something wrong" with Alonso's teammate.

 

"He was just never as good as Alonso his whole career and it has been exacerbated by this new generation of car which he clearly hates."


Really? well i agree, he was not as good, he was a lot better!!


Alonso is the best of all time at taking a poor car and getting results,

Really? well i guess you never watched a guy called Jean Alesi, or Shumacher, not to mention guys like Gilles or Ronnie....

Kimi has always been terrible at it. When the car is great, Kimi can be exceptional.[/QUOTE]

That´s probably why everyone was blown away with him at sauber, because theyr car was so exceptional!! and that 2003 Mclaren from 2002 was also state of the art machinery!!
And of course, the f60 was also top notch, even a onelegged guy and partialy blind would have won races in that thing...

 

yap, and when the team mate starts being faster and making him look bad (like Trulli did) the team boss whom actualy also takes care of his carrer sabotages the guy and he mistiryously stars dragging himself trough the back of the grid....

 

I maintain that Kimi is massively talented, as is everyone in F-1. But Kimi is simply in a car that does not suit him. It is hard to concentrate for two hours when you are subjected to massive G forces every 10 seconds. It is hard to concentrate when you are in a car and it is 125* inside, or it is soaking wet, or you can't see from the rain on your visor.

This is not an easy job, people.

How about a little respect for all those on the grid?

 

I'm a kimi fan and I've come to accept that he's just not as good a driver as Alonso.

Doesn't mean he's a sh*t driver, as Lauda would put it, just that Alonso is just that much better handling another sh*t car made by Ferrari.

Same principles apply at RB, where Ricciardo is killing Mr-four-time-world-champion 7 to 1. Does that mean Seb sucks? If so, then that would mean Webber sucked even more and all credit goes to Newey for the last 4 titles lol.

 

Japan 2008? Singapore 2010? Korea 2010? Malaysia 2012? Valencia 2012? Hockenheim 2012? Yeah, you might want to check your facts on that one.


Another hater blind to the facts. No need to bother. If you can't see how brilliant Alonso is by this point then you are beyond hope...

I've got news for you he is just that good!

 

Japan 2008 was a great victory, especially after hammybone took everyone in front of him for some TT excursion on the first corner!!!

 

Odious comparisons between drivers aside, it's really too bad that the rules prevent rival teams from making improvements to their cars to allow some really great racing for places other than 3rd & below. Watching Lewis & Rosberg- Mercedes co-drivers- duke it out is getting boring; hats off to Bottas & Williams for their 2nd place finish but clearly having Lewis start near the back of the grid didn't exactly hurt Bottas's chances. Both Mercedes pilots are excellent drivers in what's clearly the quickest machine in 2014, but I would love to see drivers on RIVAL teams competing for 1st & 2nd, not 2nd & 3rd or 5th & 6th, or whatever. The battle between Alonso & Ricciardo was a lot of fun to watch- that sort of racing for places the top of the podium, not just the rest of the field, is what ALL F1 racing should be like, IMO.

As things now stand, Mercedes has effectively wound up the constructors' championship, and Nico & Lewis might as well do a coin toss for the driver's title. Others need no longer apply...this year, which is only now just halfway over. Boring.

Change the rules so we can all see some REAL racing, PLEASE!

Cheers,
Rich

 

Nothing is wrong with Kimi. Everyone here calling for his head is nuts. In an organization, if an employee struggles, it's the job of the company to help out, and assist the employee until the person is better. Obviusly taking into account the employee is trying hard as well.

You don't discard an employee after 6 months because not up to standard, etc. You help that person out first, before pulling the trigger.

Kimi was one of the best the last 2 seasons. He's a champion, and suddenly a Ferrari switch made him forgot how to drive? Common...

 

Boom. Alonso was ferraris salvation. Everything went steadily downhill once he came on board. What a coincidence...

 

More reason to respect hamilton imo