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Spa predictions 2014!

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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    It's 3 -long- weeks away...but let's discuss it.

    Not many huge upgrades coming (2 week holiday for everyone).

    I think that Williams might have a shot at winning this race (by Williams I mean Bottas). At Spa, good straight line speed is needed which the Williams definitely has (it actually has the best), and the car can negotiate a corner too...

    Look at 2009, cars that weren't so great like the Ferrari and Force india did a 1-2.

    Kimi's best track, but unless they bring more front end upgrades for him I don't think he'll be ahead of Alonso yet. Hoping for another solid finish though.

    The Renault has had some small updates recently in power and it seems much better, so counting out one of the Red Bulls for a podium can be foolish.

    Discuss!
     
  2. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    I think that is a good assessment of this race. I see Williams being a big factor here and Red Bull via Daniel being strong. Rain could make it all the more interesting :)

    Ferrari seem so inconsistent Im not sure where they will be. Behind Williams is strong possibility.
     
  3. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

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    If it will rain, maybe Ferrari have a chance for the first 4 positions on the grid.
     
  4. furoni

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    I think Kimmy will finally show up--if he doesn't get screwd by the team...
     
  5. TifosiUSA

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    Ferrari will be nowhere in my opinion. The Kemmel straight is going to be hell for their engine.

    Would love to be wrong.
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    +1, and from stavelot on towards the busstop, it's a flat out section despite all the corners, well over 315kph.

    I see 5th as the very best they can achieve in normal conditions. Nothing can go wrong to achieve that result, everything has to right.
     
  7. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    rain will probably mix thing up...but i suspect the williams will be a lot stronger there, and the Bulls will suffer a bit too
     
  8. David Lind

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    If Kimi can't out -shine Fernando at Spa, then I'm giving up on him!
     
  9. kraftwerk

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    I just love the track with it's own micro climate, I can't wait...
     
  10. Ferraripilot

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    This will be the Mercedes and Williams show. End of story. Everyone else go home
     
  11. furoni

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    +1, unless the wather screws with them...wich probably will happen...
     
  12. RWatters

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    Canada was supposed to be the Mercedes show too.
     
  13. subirg

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    Power and brakes. Power and brakes. Mercs could break here, so it's a wide open race. Especially in the wet!
     
  14. Mulehead

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    If mb has a problem Williams will win
     
  15. Aircon

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    Do you guys remember that in pre season testing Ferrari had the fastest car down the straights? What happened, I wonder?
     
  16. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Mercedes were not showing their potential. Thats what happend :) Plus its testing as it goes.
     
  17. indy-25

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    I think the Renault has more power than people think.

    I see a Hamilton & Bottas fight.
     
  18. IamRobG

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    Barring reliability issues

    Rosberg
    Hamilton
    Bottas
    Ricciardo
    Massa
    Vettel
    Alonso
    Force India's
     
  19. rmani

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    Mercedes will sabotage hamilton and ferrari will sabotage kimi
     
  20. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I'd say, if Mercs dominate, Lewis will take this one. However, potentially, Alonso remains in contention should there be a mix weather like last weekend.

    Having said so, this is Kimi's best track, and he recorded the Scuderia's only win in 2009 here. If the team doesn't screw him, he should do well too.
     
  21. David Lind

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    I completely fail to perceive any motive for Ferrari to "screw" Kimi. While I'm usually bemused by conspiracy theories, unless I'm missing something this one seems groundless. Why would Ferrari sabotage their own car? They don't want Kimi to succeed? Then why did they hire him for $40M for 2 years?
    Makes no sense at all to me. Quite the contrary, because neither of Ferrari's 2nd drivers has scored many points for the last 2 seasons.
     
  22. ricksb

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    Spa is a high-speed circuit. This will be a Mecedes show, then Wiliams.

    I'll take LewHam for the win...
     
  23. texasmr2

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    Ask me after qualifying, my Crystal Ball is in the shop.
     
  24. Bas

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    I don't think it's intentional sabotage, it's more like **** up after **** up because they're stubborn.

    Plenty of radios this season that Kimi is begging and/or shouting over the radio that he needs to pit because his tires are ruined and they leave him out for 3-4-5 laps still...losing him an easy 10 seconds and positions. I think Ferrari has a strategy in mind and they refuse to change it when conditions change (whether this is other cars or track conditions).

    It's the same like making him sit in the pit when he could be bumped off in Q1 because they then have to use another tire set, but they don't think of the consequences when they don't get through.

    They go in with a mindset and refuse to alter until it's too late.
     
  25. David Lind

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    Bas, you make quite a bit of sense there! Back to my post in the "What the hell is wrong with Ferrari" thread, where I said aside from drivers, reliability, and mechanics just about EVERYTHING is wrong with Ferrari's team.
     

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