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Remembering Mark

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  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    #1 RP, Aug 19, 2014
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  2. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The spirit of Mark Donohue is still alive in Penske Racing.
    He built up that team and his legacy is still with us.
    It was a very sad day when he left us.

    I remember witnessing his effort to tame the Porsche 917 turbo during a private test session at Paul Ricard. There was no doubt about his driving talent.
     
  3. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    I remember and cherish my opportunity to meet, talk to him and shake his hand when I was a child race car lover....at a sun oil luncheon.
     
  4. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    All true.
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    One of Americas best. Probably the best.

    Motorsports lost a giant that day.


    I reread his book a couple of years ago. Still a great read.
     
  6. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1 to all

    "The unfair advantage" remains as one of my bibles to this day.

    Because it wasn't "unfair", it was out-thinking the other guys. Wonderful stuff.

    With no disrespect to Penske, can we even imagine what he and Chapman could have achieved? :eek:

    RIP Mark
    Ian
     
  7. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

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    "Captain Nice" ... remember when he was called that? Never met Mark, but I was a fan of his when I was a kid.
    Hey R. P. & Tim Cindric: next year for the 40th anniversary of Mark's passing, how about running your cars in the old Sunoco blue & yellow paint schemes for the Indy race closest to Aug 19th? It would be a dignified way to salute one of the cornerstones of Penske Racing. Just an idea from a fan of racing and its history.
    David Lind
     
  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Colin was the right guy in the right place at the right time not to mention I don't think there was any room for any more cooks in his kitchen.

    Roger on the other hand is very different. He is a genius at picking someone for a job and letting them at it. Roger made the business work and Mark was the creative one and each had the total respect of the others work product.

    Roger took a desert racer and put him in Indy cars because "He knows how to win" and 4 Indy wins later most agreed Rick Mears knew how to win.
     
  9. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Understood. Certainly Colin didn't suffer fools gladly, to be polite. ;)

    However, if he respected your engineering knowledge, as I'm sure he would have with Mark, he was totally open to listening (& learning).

    I remember one night the Lotus guys saying Mario asked for "1/2 turn more negative at the rear", and Colin simply telling them to do it - This was unusual as he'd generally want his drivers to tell him what it was doing, and he'd make the decisions as to what to do.

    ["Negative" being camber before anyone asks....]

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  10. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    I think that if Mark hadn't died so tragically early & needlessly, he and Roger Penske could've had a serious chance at developing the first championship winning american F1 team.
     
  11. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #11 Rifledriver, Aug 21, 2014
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    I have never had doubt that team would have done quite well in F1 given the chance.




    Reading your post made me do some math. Mark has been gone for a year longer than he was alive but he is remembered by those of us who watched him race. Not a bad legacy.
     
  12. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    What a great, hard to believe he's been gone so long.
     
  13. ferraridriver

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    I remember sitting in the hotel bar in Riverside after a USRRC race that Mark had just won.

    He was sitting in a booth with three gorgeous gals. I remember thinking "Now there's a guy who knows to bring spares to a race"
     
  14. RP

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    I am fortunate to be "friends" on Facebook with his son, David.
     
  15. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Tell him his dad had a lot of very big fans.
     
  16. 1guy

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    Do you know where you were on the day he died? I do, like many events that you are interested in. He was my hero all of his racing life with me, and I have lots of memories of him. I have his book signed by him in my library.
     
  17. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    The photo of Mark in my first post, the one from his IROC victory, I was asked to give a copy to Roger Penske, which I did, 11x15.

    I am a big MD fan. I chatted with him many times, but my best story is when he "retired" and was running the AMC Matador project. Early on the Friday before the Sunday race at Atlanta International, I saw MD sweeping the floor of their garage, in plaid pants! I took a photo, he saw me, and started chasing me with the broom, all the time laughing. I got away, but later when I returned the Matador garage, he saw me, grabbed a wrench, held it up and laughed at me in a threatening manner. The crew was surprised, but then everyone laughed.

    This is a winning driver, a special person. I was merely a nuisance photographer. MD was incredible.
     
  18. wlanast

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    I am sorry I missed this thread earlier, but I echo the thoughts of others here as well as having so many memories of watching him in the pits, practicing, qualifying, and racing in addition to following him in print.

    I saw David at The Quail giving rides in the 918 Spyder to prospective buyers.

    Nothing against, Andretti, Foyt, Revson and others, but Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Mark Donohue are my American Motorsports MVP's. Regrettably, I only saw Mark actually race live so he has the most special place for me. Sadly we only have one of the 3 left.
     

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