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So you're Sebastian Vettel...

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  1. itschris

    itschris Formula 3

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    Let's say next race, for whatever reason, the Silver Arrows have died, crashed either out, have issues... whatever.

    So you're Vettel and coming into the final laps you're 1 and Ricciardo is 2. Do you drive to the win, or do you "accidently" run it wide and give it to Ric seeing that he may have a chance at the championship?

    It pits a single F1 win, which is no small achievement that a lot of drivers do not have against having a chance of your teammate winning the title.

    On one hand, for Vettel, he needs a win to shut up the naysayers, but he's also won 4 WDC's and this one victory doesn't change anything forward or back... but may rehabiliate his rep for being ****** to Weber.

    At the same time, is that how you want to win if you're Ricciardo? Considering no one expected anyone else to win... especially not RB given their pre-season... Daniel has an outside chance. Another race going his way and victory at the end could do it. It's not out of the question given the partial implosion that's going on in the once thought of invincible Merc team.
     
  2. maulaf

    maulaf Formula 3

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    Vettel got enough in him to give way to Ricciardo is my thinking, like Shoe helped Irvine back then.
    He's got no shot at the title and would go much brighter into the history books if he thinks for his team(mate) in such moments.
     
  3. trumpet77

    trumpet77 Formula 3

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    In that situation, Vettel races hard to the end....which comes when the radio says "Sebastian, Ricciardo is faster than you, let him through for the win or you'll never work in this town again"
     
  4. moretti

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    Haha, if THAT conversation came on the radio Dan would have already passed him, no need to tell SV
     
  5. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    ric will pass seb on his own because he's faster in equal equipment. no radio message needed.
     
  6. rmani

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    Vettel has 4 wdcs. The last couple won im dominant fashion so he doesnt have much to prove to anyone (besides fchat members). Im sure he would not impede riccardos chances to win a championship if it came down to his actions alone.
     
  7. toil

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    This.
     
  8. barndoor

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    Vettel is a Race Car Driver

    No way in "H E double hockey sticks" is he going to give his teamate anything on track.
     
  9. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Yep.

    He's out of it this year. That's the way it goes. But I'm 100% certain he'd yield to Desi if the latter still had a chance at it..... And the way it's going that's not quite as unlikely as it seemed a few races back..... Still a long shot for sure, but seems the Merc boys are hell bent on screwing each other, and he may just be the recipient of many points. Particularly come the last race BS.

    Forza Desi!

    Cheers,
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  10. Bas

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    I think he's man enough to move over to let his teammate win the title if he himself is mathematically out. He's not made of pure evil you know...
     
  11. Remy Zero

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    +1000
     
  12. ricksb

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    +1...
     
  13. itschris

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    Thinking about it now... that DQ in Aus could be meaningful. Can you imagine if just a few things go his way here and there and he wins Dubai but loses out by just a few points.

    It's a long shot by any means, but so was anyone beating Merc. I think Seb is a different this year. He seems more mature than ever and has taken all the bad luck he's experienced in addition to his own issues in stride and seems to remain positive. I think if it came down to it and a championship for Ricciardo was in the balance... he'd lock up or run wide.
     
  14. Aircon

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    why wouldn't he just let him past, then?
     
  15. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Lifting of and letting him pass, anyone will see it as a gesture. A ''mistake'' (real or not) will be debated for years and only ever a bad outcome for Vettel.
     
  16. 11506apollo

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    Who would have thought the all powerfull MB AMG team with all their high tech...advanced electronics....aerodynamics...and powerfull engines.......and discovering that their weakness revealed to be an old fashion "human nature conflict".....
     
  17. 308luver

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    I see this year ending similar to 2009. Seb made a run for the championship but button just had too much of a lead. Seb also lost a podium on the first race that year abeilt his own doing.

    I think rici will close in but ultimately will finish in 3rd barring a Ham meltdown once team orders go into effect.

    That being said since this year is gone one would hope seb would attempt a PR win given his past pr failures...
     
  18. asjoseph

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    #18 asjoseph, Sep 10, 2014
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    ... the English mobs, heckling FIa's podium ceremony, booing and jeering Nico Rosberg for their amusement and merriment, is merely symptomatic of the general health of Formula 1 as it slowly evolves, into a NASCAR-like spectacle.

    Even the most dimwitted of motor sport fans here at the Ferrarichat have little choice but concede, F1's a sick puppy...

    Sebastian Vettel's a smart guy; good work ethic. Talented. But, the English and Italian mobs, heckling FIa's podium ceremony, booing and jeering him nine Grand Prix in a row, through it all Vettel hunkered down, and in spite, delivered Red Bull's 8th title, in half as many years.

    But, when he should otherwise be smiling and happy, Sebastian Vettel is one very exhausted driver. The English and Italian mobs having taken their toll on him, freshly refocused upon Nico Rosberg, F1's charm is wearing thin. F1 having ceased to be special to Sebastian Vettel is likely representative, to a factor of several million.

    People seeing Sebastian Vettel or Nico Rosberg glum, not smiling and happy, those television sets are starting to blink off. German nationals, still reeling in shock from the freak accident of their national hero, Michael Schumacher, we won't need Einstein to figure out, these people are not go to show up in significant numbers, at Hochenheim. Bad for business, the last thing we need is... Will Buxton's lynch mob, heckling FIa's podium ceremony!

    In the UK, F1 directly accounts for 60 thousand jobs in basic industry (e.g., high powered money). Each one of those jobs supports at least 6 other jobs, in non-basic industry. If what the British mobs are doing to FIa's podium ceremony happened to Boeing, Raytheon or Parker Hannifin, they'd have shareholders on the warpath, with tomahawks in-hand to take their scalps. Formula 1, in essence a British export commodity, the English mobs heckling FIa's podium ceremony would be analogous, to Apple employees in Cupertino, rising up to throw tomatoes at Steven Jobs?

    Inadvisable. Not a good idea...

    Great Britain's cottage industries, very much intact and still thriving since proto-industrialization, are extremely fragile, and highly vulnerable to economic shock. If F1 collapses, just the first few dominoes which fall, that's 120 thousand jobs in the United Kingdom, poof gone. Overnight. Forever. Once gone, those jobs never come back.

    A behemoth void; no more Michael Schumacher to talk to. What Rindt was to Stewart, Sebastian Vettel just lost his best friend -- asj.
     
  19. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Did you write that, or was it posted somewhere? Regardless, that was an excellent post.
     
  20. Hawkeye

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  21. furoni

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    Unlike Alonso, Ricci doesn't need a phone call to overtake...
     
  22. itschris

    itschris Formula 3

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    What is all this about Will Buxton stirring the pot?
     
  23. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    That's a joke, right? I'm assuming you're simply being your usual sarcastic and, I admit, entertaining self. Seldom have I read such a complete load of bollocks on here. In fact, I still wouldn't have if you didn't quote it! ;)

    It's nonsense. If you want to see where this guy is coming from, check out his posts in the Tony S thread in other racing.....

    I'm not allowed to say what I think of him, as that'll get me banned, but you get the idea. ;)

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  24. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I must have missed something.

    and sarcastic? me?
     

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