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Clear Video of Bianchi Crash...

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  1. ijvpet

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  2. Iain

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    Saw this earlier, I'm astonished he's alive. Lets hope he comes out of it OK
     
  3. spirot

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    Ouch... even if the crane was not there that looks like a huge impact no matter what he'd hit.
     
  4. daytona355

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    Jeez. He really steamed in there, very abrupt stop too. Deep gravel may have helped slow that down rather than Tarmac?

    Hope he pulls through and comes back, but that's the size of accident that destroys the drivers racing edge (like massa after his crash), Jules was someone I thought would be a future champion, hope he still achieves it
     
  5. miketuason

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    My goodness, in order for that tractor to be airborn, it must have been a fast and hard impact.
     
  6. darth550

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    My thought exactly but shattered legs would have been better than what he got.
     
  7. Remy Zero

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    My goodness! What a crash. He was really coming in too fast, and he passed under the tractor. Very very unfortunate incident. I hope he can pull through this. I am really hoping to see him in our beloved Scuderia in 2016.
     
  8. NürScud

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    It made me a really impression the way the crane almost got airborned! A massive crash.......
     
  9. F2003-GA

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    That was a very scary video.God bless Jules Hope he recovers with the best possible outcome
     
  10. dinomium

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    Really hard to watch as a fan and a club racer. Once you leave the tarmac in the really wet, you often accelerate as lateral grip is gone. With as much water as was coming down, the sand traps would have been long since packed out offering very little reduction in speed. Racing with a typhoon approaching was the bad judgement here.
    I would hate to see F1 start to have NASCAR type safety car laps for every stopped car or nut on the track. Villenueve does have a point and I would agree a more aggressive safety car deployment in inclement or low light situations but not every time a crane is lifting a car. #ForzaJules
     
  11. 4rePhill

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    Yet again it's being overlooked that for almost all of the race the cars were on intermediates not full wets, and cars were not leaving the circuit left, right and centre!

    The rain wasn't coming down heavily (we've had races in far worse conditions in Malaysia, at Silverstone and at Spa to name but three!), and the water that Sutil and Bianchi went off on was not standing water on level part of the track, it was water that was draining down across the track.

    It's tragic what has happened to Bianchi, but let's not make out that the conditions were a lot worse than they actually were!
     
  12. James_Woods

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    Exactly what race were you watching?
     
  13. 4rePhill

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    The race in which the cars ran on intermediates!

    Had the weather been as bad as some seem to think it was then trust Me, they wouldn't have been running on inters!
     
  14. AlfistaPortoghese

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    If I didn't know he's in hospital and has undergone surgery, I'd think he died on the spot.

    Doesn't seem a survivable accident at all. Speed, angle of impact and nature of the foreign object seem overwhelming. His helmet smashed against the crane at a considerable speed. Just like Ayrton Senna in 1994, even if that suspension arm hadn't pierced his helmet causing him fatal injury, the sheer deceleration against a concrete wall made him smash his head against the wall. Injuries to the head are always concerning.

    Hope Jules overcomes his injuries and lives a normal life, even if it means never seating inside the cockpit of a F1 car again. His life matters the most. I'm hoping Jules pulls off a Karl Wendlinger: had a near fatal crash in Monaco back in 1994, spent months in a coma but came back very competitive and perfectly fit.

    Kindest regards,

    Nuno.
     
  15. 4rePhill

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    Having read some articles about the injury his family say he has, the prognosis for recovery does not look good. :(

    (I seriously hope he beats the odds!)
     
  16. AlfistaPortoghese

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    This was indeed a very unfortunate accident.

    I clearly remember Bianchi's outstanding performance at the Monaco Grand Prix this year, when he collected his first World Championship points. What is more, he's a member of the Ferrari Junior Program, which imho is of vital importance, once Ferrari has been criticised in recent years for hiring established drivers and/or drivers who already are world champions, and not keeping an eye out for young talent from lower formulae nor nurturing/promoting in-house talent (like Red Bull with Toro Rosso or McLaren).

    2014 has been a very sad year for motor racing: Michael Schumacher fighting for his life, Jules Bianchi fighting for his life and Andrea de Cesaris losing his life on a motorcycle accident in Rome. Hope Jules beats the odds!

    Kindest regards,

    Nuno.
     
  17. John_K_348

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    Yes I just read up on these types of injuries. It does not look good. The tractor lifting up from the impact was scary. It looks like he hit the rear of the tractor engine compartment along the side of his head. The roll hoop was no help here as it came from the front and level.
     
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    IMO the FIA should have foreseen this kind of exposure.
    Trouble is nothing is done until a serious accident happens
    These cars should have the ability to turn on traction control
    and ABS once they leave the track - The driver would have
    been able to better manage the situation.Just my 2 cents worth
     
  20. Fast_ian

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    Ahh, man!... :(

    It'd be harder to find the (numerous) posts explaining this so I'll just try again;

    The guy in the post past where Sutil crashed waved yellow while the tractor moved through his area of responsibility (downstream of the incident).

    Once the tractor cleared, his section was clear, so he correctly, and in accordance with the rules and protocols of flagging, switched to green.

    Double waved yellows (as you know, meant to mean, "be prepared to stop!") were waving for at least the preceding sector, with waved yellow ahead of that and stationary yellow ahead of that. Exactly as it should be.

    That they continually ask Charlie "how much do we need to slow down under yellow in order to avoid a penalty?" is another debate... This is what I feel needs to be clarified and tightened up - BE PREPARED TO STOP!

    Ian
     
  21. Fast_ian

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    I'm sorry, and I mean no offense here, but that's maybe the silliest knee-jerk reaction that I've read so far. (And we've had a few already!)

    As I said earlier, I'm open to ideas, but let's think things through.

    Beyond it being very unlikely it would have changed anything here, how, exactly, can they do that? I, and I'm sure Charlie, are all ears.......

    Ian
     
  22. subirg

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    +1. Simple reinforcement of existing rules, particularly around enforcing flag protocols with the drivers, red flagging races when natural light falls below a certain level and reviewing the tools and procedures for stopped car retrieval would be a good start and not out of proportion.
     
  23. F2003-GA

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    First of all your coming onto me very aggressively considering this is a mere suggestion
    How it will work ?
    Semi autonomous cars have cameras that can detect when cars leave there lane.
    Same tech can be installed on an F1 car once it leaves the track the system can
    activate traction control and ABS Which would make a huge difference in the ability
    to slow down in wet weather conditions
     

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