Plans to lift F1's engine freeze in the hands of Mercedes

Signing up to a freeze by Ferrari and Renault was their biggest mistake they have ever made

 

Fully agreed. One of the dumbest rule too.

 

The FIA needs to look at the effect the freeze has had...... namely no team other than merc will win a GP, unless they have a problem... Actual race fans no longer 'follow' the races like they used too....

For example, I used to watch every session with the TV, laptop and iPads all switched into the timing screens and track maps and watch every moment, gathering Information and trying to interpret strategies etc, with qualy building to a crescendo where it actually hurt my chest as the seconds ticked down hoping for the ferraris to put in a quick one. Now, I may or may not bother watching qualy, having looked at practice results on the web (if I could be bothered), and if I do have qualy on, mainly I'm listening as I do my chores whilst it's on in the background. More often than not, I haven't a clue who is through each session until the end, and very often have no idea who ended up where except the ferraris when I glance at the screen at the end.

Come the race, no more surround sound on, phones off, world locked out for hours. Eat my breakfast, do some ironing, bit of admin work, pause to see incidents or pit stops, then grab a coffee as the race ends wondering why Ferrari bother and hope that next time around, no one goes and announces hambone as a Ferrari driver ever.

Pathetic little engines, DRS, KERS, who really cares. The cars do not develop over the season, no one can catch up a big gap as they are tied into the mistakes they make in February, tyres last about five laps of decent performance, then it's management time, weather being the most realistic chance of a winner other than a Mercedes, and of course, the winningest merc driver still needing to moan and whine that he is being victimised if someone attempts to overtake him, and barely being able to contain himself when anything goes wrong from saying what card he really wants to play and we know at some point the part time rapper will do a Monaco and say it anyway

 

Autosport reports that the 'unfreeze' will possibly be blocked by Mercedes in fear of 'cost' concerns lol!

 

With Honda coming on board Mercedes better watch its step.

Honda has sat back in the weeds and watched how all this new technology has unfolded.
They have the advantage of seeing what works and what doesn't. If they are smart they will poach designers and engineers from the other builders and dominate.
At which time Mercedes as well as the rest will be frozen.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

But isn't it part of the Piranha Club rules not to agree on anything and that that is an over-riding premise to such an extent that probably the only reason MB were thought to have agreed was to flush out another dissenter and that having failed to do this they then had to change their position in order to maintain this !

 

And why shouldn't they?

 

Because there's no challenges in F1 by anyone else, merc are a mile ahead, with no developments in any area, what's the point?

 

Leave it to Bernie, he will sort it.

 

If Mercedes said "yes" before but now says "no", that in F1 language means "yes but I want something in return".

In the end for big manufacturers like Mercedes this is not about winning, but about exposure. If Mercedes wins but nobody is watching, it's useless for them.

 

Pretty much sums up my race weekend as well. Very well put imo

 

Thanks! Most boring race so far today! Mind you, got my filing done and caught up the ironing, so not entirely wasted

 

Since the rules impose a number of engines per season, it makes sense to have an engine freeze too.

I think Mercedes is quite entitled to see the rules respected, and not give away the advantage it has by having the strongest PU in the field.

Who really wants to give its winning card away?

Would Renault or Ferrari accept to lift the engine freeze if they were dominating the field and winning most of the GP one season?

Do pigs fly ...

 

Spoiler ALERT

You want to watch out you haven't spoiled the race for others as well..

 

Spoiled what? F1 is boring, get over it

 

Lol

 

Nothing to do with the bloke that won it then eh!!, I suggest you take your own advice and stop watching/whining about it then .......

Same applies to the laughing joker below
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can't blame mercedes

they done their homework but two others whining it's kinda annoying

but annoying to us race fans knowing every weekend merc will win

 

All the Fia has to say is the other cars are so slow it's a safety issue that's how most of these stupid rules get pushed passed the Concord agreement

 

Yup. The above have only themselves to blame

 

I've been saying it for years; Apply a cumulative weight penalty for each race win second and third.
Low tech but it works.
Make it part of the "Formula"

 

You're joking, right? Please tell me that's a joke......

May be Merc should be restricted to 1.2 litres next year too?

Or Ferrari allowed to run underweight as they suck so badly right now.

Damn, let Caterham run a V10, give 'em a chance.



This is not the BOP championship, where if you suck you get a helping hand.

Cheers,
Ian

 

There is absolutely no incentive for Merc to vote to "unfreeze" engine development. They got it right and reaped a huge competitive advantage. Now, in the name of "fairness", they need to go back to the drawing board to figure out how to stay ahead of the pack?

I agree with you, their concern is indeed valid (though it doesn't help my ox at all)

 

Is anybody here who thinks that Ferrari or Renault would vote for an unfreeze in the position that mercedes is?
Never in this life