"Formula 1 needs equalisation moves says Red Bull's Christian Horner"

I think Wolff's response was correct

"If you come into Formula One, try to beat each other and perform at the highest level and then you need equalisation after the first race - you cry out after the first race - that's not how we've done things in the past," he said. "I think just get your f***ing head down, work hard and try to sort it out. I didn't mean the F-word in relation to him [Horner]," he clarified.

 

Horner is a cry baby. What about Red Bulls multiple year domination?

 

It was somewhat different. There wasn't legislation preventing the other teams from catching up to Red Bull during their years of dominance, likewise for Ferrari.

 

Equalisation has no place in F1. Never has, never will. Sour grapes from Horner, as usual.

 

This Horner guy is major A*s Clown - They win Four years in a row and now he's Bit**ing
Probably cuz he doesn't see themselves winning again for a long time especially since the real
talent Newey is stepping back and Little baby Horner can't handle the heat in the kitchen

 

When Red Bull wins, it is a "Red Bull" win - thanks to the genius of Newey and Horner. Anything other than a win is the Renault engine failing.

 

Couldn't agree more with all you guys, at least with MBZ the drivers are allowed to race one another. Horner should go pound sand, and if RB is not happy don't let the door hit you on the way out Soda Manufacturer.

 

This from a team that won 8 championship in 4 years!!

Looks like Mr Horner likes to win only and nothing else.

Is that hinting that Red Bull will leave F1 before long if it cannot taste the podium anymore?

 

Sure, Chrissie....F1 needs to be more regulated and MORE of a spec series, right?

 

I understand where he's coming from.

The regs changed too much suddenly and modifications to trial and error parts that are highly essential for performance is to restrictive. Last year with the engines not allowed modifications after February and now with the whole token idea...I don't think it works.

IMO they should be allowed continous modifications to the entire drive train whilst they're simply not allowed to go over the standard dimensions and fuel flow limit. It would allow teams to actually have somewhat equal power instead of there being one highly succesful engine and the rest aren't allowed to catch up.

F1 is suffering intensely now because of this...I think this year we will see another significant drop in F1 viewers. IMO by Spain if certain aspects haven't been adjusted and more viewers drop, Bernie should take critical measures to literally save the sport. Mercedes can ***** and moan about leaving, but soon they will not have a sport to voluntarily leave anymore because it won't exist.

 

The flaw in Wolff's position is the regulations on testing prevent any team catching up. As far as the WCC,... It's already over. And the WDC is down to 2.

 

Has everyone forgotten who developed and voted in the current regs? The teams themselves. They can change the regs for future years if they want to - unanimously.

 

It's not Merc's fault it's the FIA's fault for allowing such an expensive engine formula
and no way to balance things out.They should have kept the design scope of the engine
very tight in which no one would have walked away with a superior engine - IMO

Now that 100's of millions are already spent any changes in regs will bust budgets even more

 

True. The only low cost way out is to go back to a previous formula. That won't happen because the embarrassment factor would be too damaging for the leaders of the sport. So... There is no cheap or quick way out of this. The fairest thing to do would be open the flood gates for unlimited development and testing. Still expensive, but the only way to make progress immediately.

 

True and Red Bull were constantly getting stuff banned to get the gap closed. Also aero is very much in your face while engines and mappings are hard to replicate. IMO the FIA should at least release engines' specs and construction details to make it easier for others to catch up.

 

F1 is taking the lead in technology that will halt global warming!

(hits off crack pipe)

 

Mercedes and Ferrari were the cause by using exotic materials in their engines that made them hugely expensive ...... I had no issue with this, if you want to compete at the highest level then use engines from the highest plane.

But it WAS and IS Mercs fault, along with Ferrari, all that happened was that Mrec got the engine right and Ferrari didn't AND then weren't allowed to play catch up, THAT was BS

 

Yep, they are sacrificing the sport at the altar of "relevance." They might as well just default to Formula E or whatever it's called, as the premier form of auto racing.

 

Agreed. The ban on development is what's causing the problem. Unleash the engineers!

 

They should simply agree a multi year fixed price for engines to teams and then allow engine manufacturers to develop all year to any degree and cost that they feel suitable.

Seems stupid that teams can constantly update their cars and yet the engine development is drip fed. If these engines are really road relevant the boards can justify the further research/development.

I doubt Ferrari, Renault and Honda are enjoying being held back as their technology looks so poor and limited compared to Mercedes. If they are prepared to spend to catch up and repair their reputations, let them.

 

Correct, but with one change. In order to get your head down and sort it out, you need to be able to test. Development must be allowed.

IMO, for every 10 points that you are behind the constructors championship leader, your team earns a test day. You can test, or if you are tail end charlie, you can sell the test to a team that can afford it. If you purchase a test day it is only good until the next race, so you can't accrue them. No testing in August. This allows teams that need to improve to test and allows teams that will accrue the most test days to test or trade them for capital which they need.

 

This is the problem

How CVC Has Made $8.2 Billion From Formula One Auto Racing - Forbes

A return of 753% for ️️cvc over 8 years. If they stopped treating f1 like a cash cow and increased the proportion given to teams (particularly lower tier teams) they could have unlimited testing again and solve a lot of the current inequalities over development. But of course that won't happen. They just wanna suck the sport dry. 10 percent return a year is good. 753% over 8 years is just bloody Redixulous and greedy. When teams start dying they should cut their profits rather than letting the sport die and taking it down with tbeir greed

 

That would provide teams with the tactical incentive to sometimes fake bad performance to allow for development. At least I can envisage it happening in some circumstances whereby they think the benefit of development would outweigh the points lost in a particular circumstance. But definitely could work if well regulated

 

They give the teams a billion a season.

Its how it divvied up that's the problem not the amount but CVC and Bernie are already locked into a contract that favours the teams that promised to give the sport the stability it lacked when they acquired the rights.

All teams had the chance to sign up until 2020. Those that did have been rewarded more. In retrospect it was a terrible agreement but at the time it probably made a great deal of sense.