For those who think the F1 cars still look bad...

GP cars aesthetically improved this year, but Indycars have gotten more cartoonish. At least the front looked good last year, but now there's waaaaaaay too much bodywork everywhere. An upper echelon racing car should look lethal; the Indy crapwagon looks like a Fisher Price toy.

 

Not to worry. After half a lap, most of the winglet junk isn't on the cars, anymore.

 

Enlighten yourselves.....Gordon Kirby - Auto Racing - The Way It Is

 

When F1 cars began to grow wings and fins all over sometime in 06 or 07 I was really concerned that the end result would be something like that Indycar monstrosity. Thankfully they took steps to clean the silhouette of the cars up.

I honestly don't mind the aesthetics on the grid at the moment. I wouldn't mind seeing some more radical paint jobs though.

 

I miss the 1998-2004 cars..

 

Nothing to disagree with there. For several years I have thought that it would make sense to limit front and rear wings to single planes, eliminate any little fins and winglets on the main part of the body, eliminate barge boards and turning vanes. I think it would improve racing by making cars more challenging to drive and they might even look better.

 

Looks are one thing. The sound is an abomination.

Friend went to the Singapore GP. He is not going to another GP till they fix the sound.

 

Best looking Indy car of ALL TIME. Every Indy car after it was uglier.
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whoa...looks like a 1960s F1 car..

 

That 1965 Lotus kinda WAS a 60's F1 car. Very similar to its sister Lotus GP car, as were the 66-67 Eagle Indy & F1 cars.
Still looks great, no?

 

+1000 and one of the most aesthetically beautiful engines ever!

 

I agree 100%. Maybe I'm just too old, but I love the pre 68 F1 cars with no wings and minimal graphics. Also the country colors. This will never be seen again in modern racing.

 

The best looking F-1 cars were from 1988 - 1993. They were wide, sleek, and had massive wings and barge boards etc.. as well as slicks big side pods, and multi cyl. engines .. after Senna's death they strangled the cars and that is what we have now.

Indy cars from about the same time period were pretty spectacular as well. onece the split happend it all got ugly and have not come back.

 

The aero down force is so great on Indy cars that they often run 3-4 wide and never lift, much less brake, except to pit.

 

Ironically, this Lotus 38 was the first Indy Lotus that was designed as such from scratch and was not based on the current F1 Lotus. The types 29 and 34 used the previous two years were based on the contemporary types 25 and 33 F1 cars. But the 38 obviously still used F1 technology.

You mentioned the Eagles; they were designed by the same man, Len Terry, who was principally responsible for the 38. Of course, Gurney had the car designed so that both Indy and F1 cars could be based on the same chassis. Foyt's 1967-winning Coyote was also basically a Lotus 38 copy.

 

I was at TMS when Kenny Brack almost exited the track. I remember Dan Wheldon. I think that the pods around the wheels make absolute sense, especially on the ovals. F1 cars don't share the same space very often, so they can and should retain the traditional open wheel style.

 

Funny, I was watching Indy cars this weekend (which is rare for me since I don't really care for the IRL) and thought, "well, at least all these bits all over the place have a functional purpose." They're ugly, but at least there is a performance justification for their ugliness.


Mark

 

I don't know what you're all going on about!

When Sebs Ferrari crossed the finish line on Sunday it was one of the most beautiful machines I've seen for a long time!

 

I couldn't agree more. The sound is beyond disappointing.

 

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These new indycar aerokits or whatever are downright horrid.

I have an indycar race in my backyard this year and I just don't know if I can bring myself to watch them go around the track.

 

Fisher price is accurate.

They look like those three seat indycars for the fan ride-alongs, except without the extra seats.

Terrible.