Mclaren claim a Spa engine update will put their engine on par with Ferrari

If I were them I would shut up and just race.

 

Results talk and BS walks. I agree with you. Just score a few points, and then talk.

With all the hype over the P1, maybe they should race that.

 

+1.

Making big claims regarding their power ambitions is good fun and all, but they've had a very, very tough year so far and the media is all over them. If they fail to produce this power, or have yet more blow ups, or fail to make it on fuel...Making a big claim like they did is just not clever.

Rather make sure they qualify better, and make sure they finish the race before boasting about power claims.

 

....But will it hold together?

 

In future news:

McLaren suffers double engine failure at Spa.

 

LOLO, so uncle Ron claims he as a good chassis but engines in crap, Hondsa says Engine will be on pair with Ferrari but chassis sucks!!! WEll, if Ron speaks the truth and so does Arai, they should have no problem in fighting for a podium finish next weekend...anything below that will just show they'r both full of crap....

 

lol. whole boatload of humor today on fchat.

 

I'm still not sure McLaren know how to make a car perform in the modern day F1. It will be actually sad if the Honda engine does prove to be a performance jewel at some point but only to saddled with a non-performing chassis.

I think Boullier even said just recently you're never going to win a championship as a customer... you have to be a factory or works team. You need the real engine from the manufacturer, but you also need the car. Williams for instance will never win a championship as long as they have a Merc engine. If RB switches, neither will they.

To me this just highlights the need for more engine builders in F1. I'd like to see Ford, Chevy, and others build engines and by sole suppliers to teams. Maybe it's not feasible but I almost don't see the point of a team like Haas getting into F1 using a Ferrari engine. They'll never beat Ferrari to a WDC using a customer version of a PU.

 

At the end of the day, F1 is a business. Teams can make a lot of money finishing 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th in the WCC. While winning is the ultimate goal, profit trumps on-track success. I believe Haas will be profitable relatively quickly with their approach.

That said, you can lose a lot of money very quickly in F1. Depending on how you read financial reports, individuals can make a good bit of cash while the team piles-on debt. Guys involved in F1 these days are not stupid, and are generally very successful business people. They manage to make money for themselves regardless of the "success/failure" of the team in general.

 

Hilarious

 

Interesting they compare themselves to Ferrari, considering what happened the last time Alonso was with macca. :\

 

What we need is engine suppliers that don't have their own team!

Nothing wrong with an independent supplier selling its power units to private teams on a non-preferential basis, but it shouldn't have its own squad at the same time, or there is an obvious conflict of interest.

We need independent power units companies, like Cosworth, HART, Judd, etc... used to be in the past, selling without preference and discrimination.

Apart from that, if Haas wants to play second fiddle to Ferrari, why not?
Haas may be just putting a toe in the water, and switching engine supplier after a few years, who knows?

 

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They might have good power over one lap, but a claim suggesting their harvesting problems are over that fast would be a miracle. Maybe they're just talking about the engine part?

 

As long as they get their cooling issue continuously solved, they should be able to turn it up. That engine is a masterpiece of engineering like the Merc. They just need to get it together. I think next year they will be competitive....so I hope.

 

+1000

stop updating the whole world what is your target, what is your next move, etc. Just get on with it. And let the racing do the talking.

 

The more they speak, the more i wan't to see them fail.....

 

Honda has been getting a lot of flak lately. Saying that the chassis is not so great either is just self-defense or maybe it´s that McLaren has already a plan B for 2016 and Honda is trying to find another host?

 

Oh dear - classic face palm from Honda (yet again)…

To claim the engine was good on power in Hungary is utter rubbish. They were blown into the weeds on the short hungary straights - that is purely down to power. Their performance was saved by the chassis being good in the corners.

Now they have jinxed themselves ahead of Spa by claiming to be up there with Ferrari, I look forward to hours of hilarity that will follow - and the inevitable pictures of unhappy Japanese engineers staring at (very expensive) blown up engines.

 

McLaren-Honda is not expecting to see a drastic improvement in its performance at this weekend's Belgium Grand Prix and will instead wait for Singapore to get a true reflection of its upgrades.

McLaren not expecting big step until Singapore

 

I cannot see the point of making wild statements, at the risk of being left with egg on your face later on.

Is it to satisfy PR? Is it in reply to "investigating journalism"? Is it spin?

I can't see the sense of it.

 

I guess it's just for amuzing us..

 

It's just to keep people, the fans etc, updated on what is going on. Pretty much like how people post on social media what is happening in their life.

However, I think it's a big mistake for them to keep updating.

 

So on one hand they say they can catch/match Ferrari at Spa, and on the other, they say significant improvement only in Singapore. Wow. Just wow.

 

I'm not sure McLaren's PR department is actually talking to the engineers.

I'd like to see them move up the grid, but I'm heavily skeptical.

All the best,
Andrew.