Funny how some folks don't know when to shut-up

Yep a bad comment. Unfortunate.

Ricciardo almost always had superior race pace to kvyat

 

he's gotta stfu and start spanking sainz.

 

Nope,Kvyat is finished.....the unfortunate thing was teh fact that because of his bag of Money,a great talent like Félix Dacosta was waisted to DTM...what a shame...

 

Wow what an idiot.

 

(blush) - that feeling when you are embarrassed for somebody else...

 

So if you were demoted from your job out of the blue by your employer, with no warning whatsoever, and replaced by someone else who was deemed to be a better future prospect than you, you wouldn't feel slightly aggrieved?

Instead you would be full of congratulations for the guy who replaced you, publicly saying: "Hey good for you Max! - You go and have great success in My Job, in My car!"?

I seriously doubt it!

Stating that he could have won the race in the Red Bull may be out of order, there again, who knows? - Perhaps he could have won the race in the Red Bull, the fact of the matter is we'll never know.

When asked: "Do you think you could have won today if you were still driving that car?", what is he supposed to say?: "No, I'm too s:censored:t to win in that car!"?

He's just been dumped by his team with no warning whatsoever and he's p:censored:ssed of about it - I can understand that.

If Red Bull think he's "that" s:censored:t at his job, why have they put him back in the Torro Rosso?

(Let's not forget, a big part of putting Max in the Red Bull was to prevent Mercedes or Ferrari getting their hands on him. As it happens this weekend, it's worked out very well for Red Bull).



Fchat really is a fickle place!

A few weeks ago after the Chinese GP, people were on here saying how well Kvyat raced into turn one, and how well he handled the post race situation when Vettel (who almost everyone agreed was in the wrong with his version of what happened on the opening lap), remaining calm and not antagonising the situation.

And later on, Vettel pretty much confirmed (quietly) that he was wrong about what actually happened in China.

Now though - Suddenly Kvyat was some sort of gormless chump with how he dealt with Vettel, was out to wind him up, and has no place in F1!


With Verstappen, a few races ago he was being slated on here for throwing his teddy out of the coat and having a childish tantrum on the radio about how his team mate wasn't playing nicely with him. The vast majority of posts about it stating that it was a bit pathetic.

Now he's been handed a win by Rosberg and Hamilton (lets be totally honest here, he would never have beaten the Mercedes cars had they still been on track and working properly!), suddenly he's the greatest driver since Michael Schumacher according to some on here!


Is Verstappen a better driver than Kvyat?: Yes - The evidence shows he is.

Is Kvyat so s:censored:t at driving that he shouldn't be allowed in an F1 car?: I don't think so.

Does Kvyat have a right to be p:censored:ssed off at being demoted by Red Bull with no warning whatsoever?: I think so - It was a pretty sh:censored:tty thing to do!

Should Kvyat not be allowed to express his annoyance at what has happened?: No, he has every right to let the World know he's not happy with the situation that he now finds himself in.

Should Kvyat be full of praise for the team who have unceremoniously dumped him, and for the driver who now has his job?: I don't think so, in fact, I'd find it a bit bizarre if he did!

 

Unless he does a miracle at STR, i think Fiat will be gone next season. Very unfortunate the way he's been handling the whole situation.

 

Because of contractual reasons, I presume that Red Bull couldn't dump him in the middle of the season, but I consider that moving Kvyat from RB to TR is a warning of dismissal at the end of this year.

Kvyat will join Speed, Bourdais, Luizi, Vergne, Alseguari and others in the RB rubbish bin.

 

Some would argue, that stepping out of an inferior car into a superior one is a much easier transition to make than the other way around...not taking anything away from what max accomplished, that was pretty spectacular for a rookie who has never won a gp.

Kvyat has 3/4 of a season left to redeem himself, lets pass judgement on him later. It's still quite early days.

 

Exactly. This guy has no excuse for his attitude.

He should have bragged about how he didn't hit anybody twice. He doesn't get enough credit for that!

 

Exactly!

 

I agree with you. We all say and do foolish things when we're young. I sure have. Difference is I wasn't in any kind of spotlight.

 

I totally agree, I was worried about him when he moved up to the top team with Dan, he is a damn good driver and has been shafted by the Austrian Mad Monk.

I liked his comment in the pre-race press conference where he asked if he got to keep his podium while sitting right next to Max

And yes he would have run that race if they put him on a 2 stopper and Dan on the 3 stop but I don't think he would have qualified as well as Max so who knows

 

Then perhaps if "youth" is to blame, all young drivers should have handlers that teach them when to keep their mouths shut, how not to smirk and look down on champions, etc. Respect goes a long way to keeping fans from writing you off.

 

What, because he stood up for himself against that idiot Vettel for carrying on like a tool because Kvyat schooled him in that corner and then vettel crashed into Kimi ???

FFS, Vettel realised later he was a tool and the kid was right, then Danii buggered up in the next race by running into him TWICE ... for that he should be berated but he had every right to look down on Vettel when he podiumed and Vettel ran off at the mouth like a little girl

 

Yes, all of that. Respect for those who came before you USED to be part of F1, which was a gentleman's sport. Now, it seems to be going the way of NASCAR. It's a shame, really.

He sealed it for me by saying he could have won the last race. Sorry, but that's when you congratulate someone for his accomplishment. That was his opportunity to show class and he failed miserably. It's only about him. And that's fine. But when the cameras is on and the microphone is in his face, maybe he needs to lie. After all, his crap driving the previous race is what got him pulled from the winning car. He has no one to blame but himself.

 

You have to be able to back up your mouth with results!

 

This is another problem caused by the high cost of F1. Half the teams on the grid have to give at least one seat to a kid with a little bit of talent because he has backers who can help close the budget gap. Kvyat is better than most, but he rose to a team where private money is not necessary. After all, Red Bull is not Manor. So can Danni stay in F1? Yes, in a lesser team where his cash will buy him a seat and he will most likely be a better choice that most other kids with a big backer.

 

The way I see it, Kvyat will follow his compatriot Petrov, who, like him, was in a top team (Renault at the time), and had some credible results to his name (2nd in a GP). That doesn't guaranty a stay in F1 these days.

I wrote at the time, that the incident with Vettel may have sealed Kvyat's career in F1. But I think there is more to that. Red Bull was in a hurry to secure a contract with Verstappen by promoting him in the Premier League immediatly, and the Russian sort of messed up at the same time.

 

Excellent post