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Halo cage approved for 2017

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  1. LightGuy

    LightGuy Three Time F1 World Champ
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  2. crinoid

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    ...geez at what point do we abandon this F1 nonsense.
     
  3. 4rePhill

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  4. scudF1

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    The end of an era....or I should say The end of the sport....
     
  5. Fast_ian

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    I think that's a little bit of an over reaction.

    Seems I've been reading about the death of F1 ever since I've been following it, & that's a long time.... Sure, we'll B&M, pretty much like whenever they make any changes, but we'll continue watching.

    The thing isn't going to stop me watching, I know that at least.

    As for restricting visibility, no big deal; the human brain has an amazing ability to tune out irrelevant stuff. Anyone remember the antler ears on the Williams a few years back? They were a much bigger impediment but the guys said they just saw 'through it'.

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  6. joker57676

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    I certainly watch less than I use to, and the cars are a significant reason. It's a slow decline in interest versus stopping cold turkey. I use to never miss a race. Never. Now , it's more like "meh, I watch it when I get around to it." Sadly, I think many are in the same boat as I (at least based on what I hear). This is just another nail in the coffin.


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  7. Mitch Alsup

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    If F1 REALLY wanted the ultimate in driver safety, they would remove the driver from the car and do it all remotely.
     
  8. TexasF355F1

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    When this cage is the cause for a serious injury or death I'll be interested to see what they think of next.
     
  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Interesting to see what each manufacturer's little design changes on it and around it will be as an aero aide
     
  10. wiley355

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    #10 wiley355, Jun 5, 2016
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    At this rate, it might just come to that.

    Been following F1 since 1960 - for me, the sport began to lose its appeal when we lost this man . . . . .
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  11. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Wouldn't have helped Bianchi in the least. Senna (and even Massa) was a one in a million shot as well.

    Looks like it is basically only a shield for a wayward tire.
     
  12. Fast_ian

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    Not so sure on that. At least the thing would have hit the tractor before his head! We'll obviously never know, it may have broken, but seems to me any protection ahead of his noggin can't hurt, at the very least.

    Senna, maybe - that was a big chunk of debris that may have been deflected had it been there. Phil, unless he got lucky & the spring hit it, I agree, no help for 'tiny' pieces of debris like that.

    May have also saved Maria too IMO.

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  13. tervuren

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    If they'd been in modern F1, we probably wouldn't of lost him.

    Real Grand Prix racing died with WWII.
     
  14. NürScud

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    I've already abandoned F1. I watch only some interesting races in great tracks...but only this.
     
  15. Bas

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    I think the unit will be standardized, much like the T cams etc. ''aero neutral'' (or as much as they can be, since they do add a little drag)
     
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    Same here !!

    You know that the aesthetics of F1 cars have changed over the years, but I am sure the audience has grown.

    I remember when wings started to appear on F1 in the late 60s; everybody derided them at "tea trays", but now nobody think about wings on cars.

    I remember when massive airboxes were adopted in the early 70s, like on the Gitanes-Ligier. People called them ugly.

    Even the raised floors were condemned by some as absolutely wrong.

    I think the halo or the aeroscreen will be the same; give it a few years, and everybody will think nothing of them.
     
  17. Bas

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    +1

    Though I'd much rather have the aero screen rather than the halo of hideousness.
     
  18. nathandarby67

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    #18 nathandarby67, Jun 5, 2016
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    Agreed. A screen is a much more natural thing to be on a car, for starters. Most cars have some form of windscreen, such as the Brooklands screens on many old racers. Never seen any other car with a halo. Also from a safety standpoint I have to believe a screen is better, as it would deflect both large AND small debris.

    I'd much prefer the FIA just mandating some sort of protection standards, then let the teams come up with their own ways to provide it. The less like a spec series F1 is, the better. I WANT the different teams' cars to be visually unique.
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  19. tifosi12

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    Stupid ****
     
  20. singletrack

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    All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not racing in F1.

    Wait wut?
     
  21. PhilNotHill

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    Next step...coupe? Can it be far off?
     
  22. ren0312

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    ................. wrong
     
  23. singletrack

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    So I spoke to Pippa Mann about the Halo last time I was racing (she was coaching). This was shortly before she headed to Indy to start practice for the 500. Her take is basically the same as mine - I'd rather have my life end from something I don't see hitting my head then from burning to death trapped in a car. Pippa has burned before also, so her opinion carries additional weight to me. She said she didn't really care for the aesthetics argument (I do), just that she doesn't want new danger introduced as a result of trying to stop a specific event.

    I also asked her if she felt the closed rear wheels in Indycar had helped safety taking into account the CF shrapnel that can be created during an incident. She said that was a hard question because the launching is very dangerous, but the CF pieces can also be very bad even though they haven't been the direct cause of a terrible crash yet (maybe punctures though).
     
  24. TifosiUSA

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    id rather it was a full canopy than this monstrosity.
     
  25. stever

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    #25 stever, Jun 6, 2016
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    Next thing to come would be AC.....sorry, didn't see the thread about this very thing.
     

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