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  1. montelatici

    montelatici Rookie

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    #1 montelatici, Jul 30, 2016
    In 2002, rules were changed (for 2003) in an attempt to stop Ferrari dominance. Ecclestone claimed that Ferrari dominance was ruining F1. It took a few years but eventually the rule changes, aimed at harming Ferrari succeeded. No one, including Ecclestone is saying that Mercedes dominance is ruining F1, so there have been no rule changes aimed at stopping Mercedes dominance.

    Ferrari should just leave F1. The engines have no relationship to Ferrari road cars anymore. 1.6 liter turbo engine technology may help Mercedes for their road cars, but not Ferrari.

    Even in 2003, Todt was aware of what was going on:

    "13 October 2003 – Twelve months ago Formula One's ruling body changed the rules to revitalise the sport after Michael Schumacher and Ferrari had crushed the opposition in 2002.

    A year on, Ferrari have secured a fifth constructors' title and Schumacher has claimed his record-breaking sixth world title.

    The outcome may have been the same but changes to the qualifying system and points-scoring positions ultimately brought Formula One back to life and added interest and intrigue.

    Both championship battles went down to the wire -- the exact intent of the changes -- and despite the season ending with familiar winners, it was hailed as a success.

    Ferrari team boss Jean Todt was opposed to the rule changes and admits they made winning again this year a lot harder. "We probably did not get the best out of them in the beginning but then I think the wish was to make qualifying more unpredictable this year," he said. "This season it was much more competitive, it was much more difficult to achieve what we achieved and we had to wait until the last race before it came. It's hard to believe because we have been fighting so much so it will take a few days before we do realise it. All the team can feel proud of the job that has been done."
     
  2. renman95

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    #2 renman95, Jul 30, 2016
    Maybe Ferrari can have more success in IRL?
    ;-)
     
  3. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    #3 TheMayor, Jul 30, 2016
    Not now after losing for so many years.

    Not ever IMO.

    I don't think the rules are against them. I think they are against themselves.
     
  4. freshmeat

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    #4 freshmeat, Jul 30, 2016
    bingo, we have a winner.
     
  5. moretti

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    #5 moretti, Jul 31, 2016
    Only losers give up ...... you are only truly beaten when you throw in the towel, something Ferrari has never done, which is why I support them :)
     
  6. F2003-GA

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    #6 F2003-GA, Jul 31, 2016
    Their F1 operations must be worth Billion dollars or more
    They get the biggest revenue cut from F1 than an other team
    Why in God's world would they walk away :confused:
     
  7. SPEEDCORE

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    #7 SPEEDCORE, Jul 31, 2016
    Random 1st post.
     
  8. moretti

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    #8 moretti, Jul 31, 2016
    Jean Todt looking for tips ??
     
  9. SPEEDCORE

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    #9 SPEEDCORE, Jul 31, 2016
    Why stop at Ferrari. 95% of the other teams are in the boat. :eek:
     
  10. william

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    #10 william, Jul 31, 2016
    Yes, I think Ferrari should leave F1 .

    They won everything now, and they should rest on their laurels with a record second to none.

    Also, only Ferrari's departure will force F1 to reform.
     
  11. PSk

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    #11 PSk, Jul 31, 2016
    ROFLMAO!!! :D

    Seriously does Jean actually do anything? I don't believe he does.
    Pete
     
  12. Bas

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    #12 Bas, Jul 31, 2016
    Just because Ecclestone is not saying it week in week out he has said it a few times now.

    Leaving is pathetic.
     
  13. DeSoto

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    #13 DeSoto, Jul 31, 2016
    The card shuffle when someone is winning too much is a tradition in Formula 1 almost as old as Ferrari. And now that everything relies on TV ratings the tradition is more alive than ever: they almost change the rules from one lap to another.
     
  14. NürScud

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    #14 NürScud, Jul 31, 2016

    +1

    But i believe a 2 years brake would be useful!
     
  15. Remy Zero

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    #15 Remy Zero, Jul 31, 2016
    Leaving is not gonna solve anything. In fact, the rules, are not against Ferrari. The rules were made up by stupid people running the show aimed at improving their business and visions. Not the teams, and not the fans.

    I mean, the first major blunder, is banning testing. It's like telling professional footballers they are not allowed to practice, but just show up at the actual game and play. That's unheard of.

    The FIA also let the manufacturers dictate the type of engine rules, which spoilt the entire sport. Their focus on the manufacturers rather than the privateers are already killing the sport.
     
  16. Bas

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    #16 Bas, Jul 31, 2016
    ?!

    They'll emerge at the back on their return.
     
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    #17 tifosi12, Jul 31, 2016
    If Ferrari wants to become another Lamborghini, then yes, drop your racing heritage.
     
  18. moretti

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    #18 moretti, Jul 31, 2016
    If it takes them 2 years to stop they really do have a problem :p
     
  19. freshmeat

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    #19 freshmeat, Jul 31, 2016
    Lamborghini had racing heritage?
     
  20. Isobel

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    #20 Isobel, Jul 31, 2016
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    Really need to ask ? Powered their own team plus Lola/Ligier/Lotus in F1.

    Wow. Will view your comments in future with this in mind ;).
     
  21. TheMayor

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    #21 TheMayor, Jul 31, 2016
    What's disappointing is the year was billed as a "Mercedes / Ferrari" fight and it's become a "Mercedes / Red Bull" fight -- and barely that
     
  22. 05011994

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    #22 05011994, Jul 31, 2016
    Correction Mercedes/Mercedes fight, another snooze fest of a year. Red Bull is doing better that is for sure, but it is all Mercedes again this year. I am really sick of the new crap Formula 1 post 2013. Hoping for a shake up in 2017, but not counting on it. It has been engineering porn, not racing since 2014. It needs to get fixed or the fans will not come back. If the fans stop caring does Ferrari really need to stay in F1 or should they go to WEC?
     
  23. tifosi12

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    #23 tifosi12, Jul 31, 2016
    Isobel already answered

    Lambo has currently its own version of the Ferrari Challenge. Cute, incestuous and irrelevant

    I don't mind a car manufacturer not winning in F1. As long as they are trying. Lambo WAS cool.
     
  24. freshmeat

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    #24 freshmeat, Jul 31, 2016
    double bingo, we have another winner.
     
  25. freshmeat

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    #25 freshmeat, Jul 31, 2016
    as tifosi12 stated earlier, that's cute!
     
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