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Lawrence Stroll buys baby boy a seat

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  1. Luxb1

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    What? This guy didn't deserve that crappy Euro F3 title in the first place. It looks to me like the skids have been greased for the guy all the way. I don't care what the rules say, he should have been disqualified from the championship the second they found the illegal suspension in his car. There are thousands of father and son duos in Europe spending everything they have just to keep an ember of hope lit that they might make it to the big leagues, and this ****** and his tub o lard dad come over and bend the rules and make it harder for everyone else. And now F1? I guess the FIA bolsheviks in Paris belly up and spread em wide like an Eastern European escort for anyone with a fat wallet.
    I can't wait to see that Canuck's Williams kiss the business end of a tyre wall next year.
    And what the hell is Ferrari doing fielding Mercedes-engined cars in F3? This is not F2, and that is not a Dino engine. I don't care who Mr. Stroll or Walk or whatever is effed up name is, i don't like him and I don't like his effeminate son.
     
  2. Bas

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  3. Mitch Alsup

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    If he is as bad as you say, he won't last long enough for anyone to worry about.
     
  4. william

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    Another Ricky von Opel ...
     
  5. Ira Schwartz

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    There are plenty of reasons to question this kid's talent and/or readiness for F1, but a rant that uses words you clearly don't understand ("bolsheviks"- sic) and impugns him based on your perceptions of his masculinity isn't the best way to make your point. Relegate the right-wing crap and homophobia to the P&R Section.
     
  6. william

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    +1
     
  7. rossocorsa

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    The deal was done a long time ago, it'll all come out in the wash.......at the end of the day, money talks 💰💰💰, more than half the current drivers wouldn't be there without it....
     
  8. Luxb1

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    It's just my opinion on the kid and the current state of affairs in Formula Uno. It's not homophobia. Damn right it's my perception. Everything is perception and opinion. I don't know him. I think it's his girly smile that annoys me.
    As for my opinion on the FIA, it is clearly hyperbole, but it is well founded: FIA should have complete control of F1, says president Todt - Formula 1 - Eurosport
     
  9. NeuroBeaker

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    Agreed.

    Please tone it down as Ira Schwartz suggested or your time here will be very short-lived. We don't tolerate disruptive posts or tones in the F1 forum and enforcement is very strict:


    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  10. J. Salmon

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    I personally raise an eyebrow every time someone is surprised to find that money has an impact in something going on somewhere in racing. It's 100% about the money. You think the difference between a back-marker team and the front of the grid is driver talent?
     
  11. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It's true everywhere; in sport, in show business, in the arts, in politics, etc...

    Most of the drivers owe their progression through the ranks to F1 to access to money from backers, sponsors or family.
     
  12. NeuroBeaker

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    Agreed. Also, look at Maldonado: by many accounts a pleasant guy to talk to, but secured his F1 seat with sponsorship rather than outright talent. To compensate, he drove 10/10ths all the time and it gave him an unbelievably high crash rate. While it's true he actually won one GP, I was very surprised.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  13. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    LuxB1 - not cool ..... I have to fulling agree with my fellow constituents on your tiraid on this subject.
     
  14. tervuren

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  15. 24000rpm

    24000rpm F1 Rookie

    its my perception that drivers really dont matter "THAT" much any more given the current state of affairs. Even if they do, the "talent" we are talking about has much to do with their personalities rather than pure spatial awareness, reflection time, muscle IQs, etc. Some people are rather born taking more calculated risks than others. With some luck, they are called "talents", with some bad luck they are "maldonado". Sure ,schumacher may appear once in half a century but is he really order of magnitude better than, say, Barricello?

    Racing to me as a novice is like socializing. Some people are awkward(like me) while others get along with people like fish in water.

    Just my perception.
     
  16. NeuroBeaker

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    Yes.

    I think you're right in that the difference between undeserving and deserving F1 drivers is very slight - even those that we deride as having bought their seats are still exceptional drivers by any usual measurement not strictly limited to the confines of F1. But I do think the multiple world champions of F1 such as Fangio, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Stewart, or Schumacher (to name a few) really are an order of magnitude better than those who were very good but never managed to win a title, such as Moss, Gilles Villeneuve, Barricello, or Massa.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  17. OhioMark

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    I wouldn't place Moss & Villeneuve in the same category as Barrichello and Massa, who are considered good, but not on the same level.
     
  18. tervuren

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    I strongly disagree, the driver is very very important. They wouldn't get the pay they do if it were not so. Now, technology and analysis has allowed the driver gap to close somewhat between the goods and the greats, but the moment an un-calculated situation arises, that is gone.

    Look at the difference in Max Verstappen and Danni Ricciardo, they are both nearly as fast, but Max is getting that speed in a way that destroys his tires, this is why Ricciardo keeps ending up in front if both run the same strategy.

    I think its easier to discount driver importance, until you've actually gotten to drive against some of the grid. While horsepower downforce and drag are important, driver is too.
     
  19. PSk

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    Driver talent gets you this far ...................
    Money and less talent often gets you this far ......
    Money and actual talent gets you this far ............

    Point I am trying to make is without money, you get nowhere in motorsport. Has always been this way; even Moss had money.
    Pete
     
  20. Ney

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  21. What are you referring to? I read Democratic mudslinging myself....this is not the forum, however. PM me if you'd like to discuss.
     
  22. singletrack

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    This.
     
  23. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Williams needs the money. I wish BMW bought them instead of Sauber as the team would've actually still been competitive imo.
     
  24. Texas Forever

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    Somewhere in the great void of the Internet, there is a page showing Michael's Schumacker's braking times and releases in the Montreal hairpin compared to his competition. He releases tenths of a second before anyone else. Money can't buy that.
     
  25. PSk

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    But he would never have become the German Go-Kart champion without Jurgen Dilk's financial support: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/fine-watches-jewelry-clothes/536007-michael-schumachers-second-father-girard-perregaux.html ... no matter how early he released the brake pedal.
    Pete
     

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