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Mclaren Honda heading for a divorce for 2018

Mclaren Honda heading for a divorce for 2018

Mclaren & Mercs deal for 2018 is a possibility

https://www.f1today.net/en/news/f1/2...honda-to-split

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Old 05-13-2017, 05:12 PM
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About time !!

McLaren is completely discredited by now, and right at the bottom of the ranking.

It may become what Ron Dennis tried to avoid: a customer team.

But at least the team may survive and rebuild from this painful experience.
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Old 05-13-2017, 05:18 PM
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About time !!

McLaren is completely discredited by now, and right at the bottom of the ranking.

It may become what Ron Dennis tried to avoid: a customer team.

But at least the team may survive and rebuild from this painful experience.
So does Alonso stay then with regards to pay structure? and moving up the grid a couple of positions now the Merc unit will possibly be in the Mclaren?
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So does Alonso stay then with regards to pay structure? and moving up the grid a couple of positions now the Merc unit will possibly be in the Mclaren?
He will see if a better seat is available elsewhere; if not he will stay.
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Old 05-13-2017, 05:39 PM
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Worst deal Ron Dennis made in his lifetime.

He's lost all his sponsors
For three years they've been a back-marker
He's been fired
An American is running the team
If they break the contract Honda can sue
And now they are right back with Mercedes again
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Old 05-13-2017, 05:43 PM
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Worst deal Ron Dennis made in his lifetime.
Who'd have thunk it? Really did anyone foresee that Honda would make such a mess out of it? In retrospect a disaster, at the time it was McLaren's best option.

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Please let it be true.
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Please let it be true.
Mercedes will never let McLaren beat Mercedes.
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Mercedes will never let McLaren beat Mercedes.
At this point I will take them beating RB. Desperate times.

F1 needs Ferrari AND McLaren to be competitive. While I'm being wishful, I'd love it if Merc leaves in 2020 and we get back to Ferrari and McLaren fighting for the championship. As things should be.
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Old 05-13-2017, 05:56 PM
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I think that the break with Honda will depend on the arrival of an important sponsor in Mc Laren.
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Imho McLaren should stay with honda. Honda will eventually get it right even if it's not until a engine formula change.

At that point,... McLaren is a works team for an engine mfg.

Why give that up to be another current day Williams or Sauber?
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And can McLaren afford to leave Honda?

Instead of free engines and top driver salary paid,... they get to pay for BOTH... with no sponsor on the horizon (presumably)
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I call bull****. Might as well ride it out till 2020 when there are newer, simpler, engines.

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And can McLaren afford to leave Honda?

Instead of free engines and top driver salary paid,... they get to pay for BOTH... with no sponsor on the horizon (presumably)
+1 they can't afford it. They'll have to sack Alonso, find a sponsor (worked out for them well since 2014), and an engine...which they can't win with.
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Old 05-13-2017, 06:43 PM
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I'm actually more concerned what happens to Alonso than what happens to McLaren. But, after decades with Acura, I am disappointed as hell with Honda.
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Mercedes will never let McLaren beat Mercedes.
This.
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Old 05-13-2017, 06:52 PM
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I think before getting rid of their(Mclaren) bread-and-butter(Honda), Zak has been/or is in the process of working out multiple deals with sponsors to make up for the possible financial loss of the "Honda-pays-everything-package."
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Honda should loose any lawsuit brought against them. They failed in results and also admitted they underestimated the job.
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I think before getting rid of their(Mclaren) bread-and-butter(Honda), Zak has been/or is in the process of working out multiple deals with sponsors to make up for the possible financial loss of the "Honda-pays-everything-package."

Happy you are so confident.

Ron Dennis couldn't land a sponsor for multiple years BEFORE they went tits up with Honda.

Not all that hard to talk to sponsors… especially when you invite them to an F1 race. Convincing them that writing you a check for $50M/year is in their best interest… well that's almost certainly a little bit more tricky.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:56 PM
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I said this as soon at the Sauber- Honda deal was announced:

Mac is splitting with Honda. They had an exclusive contract and said nothing. They need a face saving exercise.

Alonso is running McLaren more than Zak Brown now.
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