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Old 07-17-2017, 09:13 AM
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... oh and now I definitely stand by my recent thread about "if you could kick any driver off the grid"

Danill is a menace. Not only does he seem wholly unlikable to me, he's just out there causing waaaaay too much danger. If a tire bump at 15mph is borderline calamity in the eyes of the FIA, then Torpedo should have a race ban.

... and while I'm not fan of Jolly, that poor guy at least deserves a working car to prove himself.
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:32 AM
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If Vettel signs for another 3 years,he might end up like Alonso in his Ferrari days,finishing second and then career just about over....
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:36 AM
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Ferrari has never been particularly successful at Silverstone.

Given that they're one of the few teams that isn't based just down the road from there, that's not too surprising.
Ferrari has more wins than any team at Silverstone lol
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:41 AM
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15 Ferrari
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:42 AM
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Ferrari has more wins than any team at Silverstone lol
Might be because they are the only team which never missed a season since 1950
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:43 AM
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You can't be serious ...
I am very serious, Hulk is a massive talent, he should have gotten the Ferrari seat years ago, if he hadnīt been picked up by Renault so soon he would now be in a Mercedes sweeping the floor with hamilton because you can bet he in better than bottas..
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:44 AM
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Furoni also thinks Alonso useless and Alesi the best
True....by the way, Giuliano won teh british G.P.3 race...it was nice, even Maurizio was smiling...
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:47 AM
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Team orders..Kimi ?
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:50 AM
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Might be because they are the only team which never missed a season since 1950
I suppose but it doesn't make any sense to say they don't do well at Silverstone. In fact I believe those 15 wins are the most for any team at any track
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:51 AM
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I am very serious, Hulk is a massive talent, he should have gotten the Ferrari seat years ago, if he hadnīt been picked up by Renault so soon he would now be in a Mercedes sweeping the floor with hamilton because you can bet he in better than bottas..
All that based on speculations and gossips from the media.

Hulkenberg has never shown any indication that he was WDC material, and there is good reasons for that. Ferrari was right not to recruit it, IMO.

You can check, but I think he never made a podium in his long career, for example, unlike some much maligned drivers like Magnussen, Petrov or, wait for it...... Kvyat !!!
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:54 AM
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he did...and you just have to look at his races to see how good he is....unless you think hamilton would win with a Renault.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:09 AM
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You miss the point entirely (as usual)

Instead of NBC constantly remarking how great McLaren is doing when in fact they suck, they should be saying how great this new team is doing compared to others who have been around a lot longer.
This from the poster that suggested McLaren would "build" a car for IndyCar when one cannot.
I know, I know nothing. My perception of reality is zip.
Apparently you missed the point entirely, again, as usual. The once great McLaren is in a hole, no doubt. Haas outpointing it is meaningless. They've done nothing special to gain any extra hype. When and if they do, I'll be right there with you. Not until....
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:21 AM
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Ferrari has never been particularly successful at Silverstone.

Given that they're one of the few teams that isn't based just down the road from there, that's not too surprising.
Hmmmmm...
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:58 AM
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Yeah, but 2011 is quite a long time ago.

Plus, only twice since MS left Ferrari.

And only 5 times in this century.

So....hahahaha
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:05 AM
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And only 5 times in this century.

So....hahahaha
I don't get the humour but....

29% of the time out of 10+ teams is pretty damn good.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:17 AM
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Yeah, I'm not so sure about all this. Sure I've only been following closely for about 6 years, but there are 2 things about SF and Seb that I think should be remembered after Silverstone and at this point in the season.

First, Seb pitted first and Kimi was running faster. He also qualified ahead of Seb again. This shows the strength of the car and of Kimi's driving. Since Seb pitted first, ahead of Merc, I'm not surprised his and Kimi's tires failed. Lockups and struggling with Max included. Did anyone finish on the white tire?

Second, Seb's "complaining" that Danyl was a "torpedo" doesn't seem so whiny now does it? I think it's clear he was on to something and with a season to sort things out, it's more than just complaining.

Also, How about Hams holding someone up again on track. Like nuking Grossjean's quali lap at the very end. He was not penalized for it and some will say it wasn't close enough. But Roman had to lift and complained on the radio like the not-so-whiny Seb.
With all of the carbon fiber debris and DNFs across the grid, don't you think a little more real time officiated from the marshals would help? Like ignoring blue flags. Sorting out these kind of games makes for a safer more accurate grid and less catastrophic DNFs. There was plenty of legal blocking and racing going on at the front during the race.

As a Ferrari fan, I hope the shorter wheel base on the cars helps at the Hungaroring. What do you think?
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:20 AM
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I don't get the humour but....

29% of the time out of 10+ teams is pretty damn good.
The hahaha was my way of taking the edge off the post, didn't want to sound too aggressive, just an attempt to articulate my post as being a bit ironic.

Yeah, almost a THIRD of the races won since 2000 doesn't make Ferrari unsuccessful.

What makes it FEEL that way is how long ago the last one is getting.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:50 AM
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The hahaha was my way of taking the edge off the post, didn't want to sound too aggressive, just an attempt to articulate my post as being a bit ironic.

Yeah, almost a THIRD of the races won since 2000 doesn't make Ferrari unsuccessful.

What makes it FEEL that way is how long ago the last one is getting.
Does Ferrari's "only" 15 out 68 years and "miniscule" McLaren's 14 of 52 make them "seem" unsuccessful? If a team dominated forever, it wouldn't be too entertaining, would it?
Nonetheless they're both very successful teams. (Williams too)
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:51 AM
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More important: Mercedes won every single one in the hybrid era.
Ferrari having won before that time does not help at all at the moment, be it 5, 10 or 50 times...
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:06 PM
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Ferrari having won before that time does not help at all at the moment, be it 5, 10 or 50 times...
Sure it does. Mercedes winning shows they're dominating right now, understood. Eight years of Mercedes' existence is not so representative of history, however...
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