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  1. Whisky

    Whisky Two Time F1 World Champ
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    For a typical 2008 Honda Accord LX, I am getting carbon fibre brake pads, should I
    spend a few extra bucks and get slotted drilled rotors? I am looking at Powerstop,
    Centric, AC Delco, Raybestos, etc.
    Anybody have any opinions on these, or should I also look at something else?

    I am not looking at upgrading the calipers at this time, just new pads and maybe new rotors.
     
  2. atomicskiracer

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    Please don't take this as being rude (i've DD'd accords since I was 16 and am on my third), but why?
     
  3. rdefabri

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    Won't speak for OP, but didn't Honda have some known issues with braking systems, including rotor degradation that was more than "normal"?

    I know there were issues with the AT when coupled with the 3.0 / 3.2 6-cyl cars and trucks (we had a Pilot, and the Honda tech alerted me to it...replacement was free).

    Just a thought...that may be the reasoning here?
     
  4. Whisky

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    Simple: 'because I can'.

    Same reason a lot of folks own Ferraris...

    That, and I tend to drive like a maniac and am hard on brakes/late-braking, they get hot....

    And don't worry, I don't take offense to your questioning....
     
  5. FarmerDave

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    #5 FarmerDave, Oct 15, 2014
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    No judgement, you don't owe anyone an explanation or an apology... I drove a civic in college and right now building a Toyota Paseo race car... now if you're trolling, GFY.

    If you really drive as hard as you say, you don't want to go with slotted or drilled rotors even if they are free of cost. Less mass means less heat that they can absorb which means lower braking performance. Marginally, but still.

    I might plumb some brake cooling ducts if youre really having issues with the brakes getting hot. But if this is daily driving I don't see how you'd overheat things without going to jail first.
     
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    Slotted rotors may have some marginal benefit in wet conditions. Drilled rotors are a marketing gimmick pushed by the marketing departments of sports car makers, and will only shorten the life of your brake pads (and the rotors themselves) with absolutely zero performance benefit. Worse, if you drive as hard as you say, you'll have the risk of cracking the rotors from the unnecessary stress concentrations (holes) in the rotors and have to replace them far more often.

    In olden days (1960s, maybe early 70s) the ancient pad formulas used to produce gases when hot that would reduce brake efficiency, and the holes eliminated the outgas layer. With modern pad compounds, there is no outgassing, and correspondingly there is no benefit to the holes in rotors... only disadvantages. Racers check their drilled rotors every session. and replace them frequently when (not if) the cracks begin to develop. How often will you be checking your drilled rotors? How often are you prepared to be replacing them when (not if) they develop cracks?
     
  8. tbakowsky

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    Akeibono pads, with WBR coated rotors. You'll be happy..
     
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  10. Whisky

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    GFY - 'good for you'?? LOL

    I appreciate the reply.
    It's not that I heat them up like a Porsche 956 trying to stop at the
    end of the Mulsanne, it's just something I felt like doing - honestly - 'because I can'.
    I actually was thinking of the less mass/less braking power, I will probably just go
    with something a bit better than the OEI cast iron ones. Researching (again)...

    The more I thought about this last night the more I agree with you...
     
  11. 101010

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    you are awesome. I love it.

    I remember the Paseo. and the idea of someone building one up and trashing it around the track is immensely amusing to me. :D
     
  12. henryr

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    why ? because you can.... that is why centrally planned economies fail...
     
  13. Whisky

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    #13 Whisky, Oct 17, 2014
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    Those that don't know their limits certainly do.

    BTST you don't hear me saying I am going to put in a
    turbocharged V6 F1 motor or anything along those lines, do you?
    Geez man, we are talking possibly $175 in brake rotors...
    And besides, I already nixed the idea.

    Gimme a brake - er - break....

    Does anyone have opinions on the different brands of 'normal'
    rotors or the different composite metal makeups?
     
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    I don't know if it's apples to apples but check the S2KI website.. Those guys know honda brakes inside out....

    Btw I know of several centrally planned economies that failed as a result of brake pad replacement......bad mojo.
     
  15. henryr

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    u misinterpreted my post....

    it is none of my business what you decide to do. go hog wild if it makes u happy
     
  16. Whisky

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    Sorry, I apologize....

    Nah, I don't need to go hog wild, but there is only so much you can do
    to a DD that is 'reasonable', after that you get into 'stupid'.
     
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    Can't help with rotors, but I have run EBC Greenstuff pads on a few cars and been pleased.
     
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    Consider the last Prelude set up or, if you have the $$$, a Willwood analog system. (The Prelude system was the same used in the last US imported Integra Type R.)

    Those are the two options I'm down to with my ZC CRX.
     
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    Seek professional help
     
  20. kverges

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    OP lost me at carbon fiber brake pads. I have no idea what they are and have never heard of them in a performance setting. I'd spring for a carbon fiber toilet seat and then get some say Hawk Blacks for the car.
     
  21. Whisky

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    So, then why bother even posting? ;)
     
  22. NousDefions

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    I have Carbotech bobcat pads on my DD and I love them. I used to have them on my hot rod 97 Maxima (supercharged) and they were great. Bit squeaky cold, but not a ton of dust for near race pads.
     
  23. futureowner

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    I'll second Carbotech. Had them paired w/slotted rotors on an RSX and they stood up amazingly well for both track and street.
     
  24. kverges

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    Carbotech makes a good product. Not carbon fibre, however.
     
  25. Auraraptor

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    If you want to improve the brakes on your Honda, start by upgrading / uprating the tires first.

    For example, going for a 225 to a 235 with sticky rubber you will notice markedly improved braking performance.
     

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