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The FXX K Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by MisterMaranello, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. Ryan S.

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    We get to the bottom of this? Whats the deal on the back of the car to the lower right by the exhaust?
     
  2. PAP 348

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    I reckon Ferrari are testing something there. No way that suspension "broke" and came back good again as it powered out of that corner.

    Quite obvious to me that the wheel leans outwards like that under hard cornering loads, giving the ultimate level of grip before returning back to normal on the straight.

    I could be wrong and if I am, I would love see see or hear Ferraris explanation of that rear wheel doing what it did.
     
  3. Ryan S.

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    Im thinking the same. I think the thing sticking out the back has something to do with it as well. Something to give the active steering a bit more travel room until they can package it nicely.....
     
  4. TOOLFAN

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    This is the first and only current XX prototype. The battery mules are still out and about.
     
  5. MisterMaranello

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    I have heard this to, but I heard it won't be the finished car, just a mockup of some sort...
     
  6. Stevenb

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    I would expect the other side tire to move aswell. With the trend coming soon I could imagine that ferrari could test out active steering. Question is, why hasnt it happened in the other corners? There are a few where the car got pushed harder towards the limit. If it was a malfunction then he was very brave to drive it that hard after lol.
     
  7. Ryan S.

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    Perhaps just a controlled test at certain angles/speed?
     
  8. Stevenb

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    That could explain why he drives as if nothing happened after
     
  9. PSk

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    No way a tyre leaning out like that would provide more grip than one with it's tread area on the track surface. You would have to fit the car with motorcycle tyres to use that tyre lean and as we all know motorcycles corner considerably slower than a car with downforce because of their incredibly small tyre contact patch with the road.

    Something broke, or didn't work correctly, and returned to near correct position due to acceleration or the driver lifted off and putted back to the pits.
    Pete
     
  10. Peloton25

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    A big thank you to those rationalizing the "I meant to do that" effect of the rear suspension.

    >8^)
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  11. noone1

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    LOL. Active steering on only a single corner, a single time? Seriously?

    Something obviously broke and caused the slide/loss of control. The drive brought it back in line and took it to the pits. The video even said that they didn't lap anymore after that.

    The reason the driver didn't stop right then and there is probably because he isn't the one recording the video. He probably knows something went wrong, but not the extent of it. He couldn't see what the camera saw. Not all component failures result in catastrophic failure.
     
  12. Bas

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    Looks to me the top wishbone (or part of it that connects) broke. When under load round that corner, the top of the wheel ''falls over'', right until the car gets straight again and the wishbone sort of falls into place.

    If you watch closely you can definitely see the wheel not sitting as it should when it starts to enter curva grande. It sits lower with a tonne of camber and higher into the wheel housing.
     
  13. redcaruser

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    I support your opinion, imo definitely a broken suspension.

    I ask myself; is Ferrari testing really a LaF-XX-version or do they analyze possible overheating problems? Is the additional unit at the rear a measuring instrument to control the heat generation under stress?
     
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    The only thing you can say for sure is that they are now doing research and testing on rear suspensions. ;)

    I think they are testing a lot of things. I'm sure there are plenty of small bugs, reliability, and driveability improvements to be made on the LF. They could be testing new active aero algorithms that will pushed out later and that can probably be used on future cars with active aero. They could be testing new brake pads. They could be measuring something with respect to the hybrid system to use in an FF eventually.

    There will likely be an FXX program, they are likely testing stuff for it, and they are likely doing R&D for other stuff as well.
     
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    #40 BlackRivazza, Jul 14, 2014
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    Peter, are you sure the Monza test was the first one? Here is a link with a rather blurry photo of what seems to be the XX-Prototype, also on"challenge" wheels and racing side windows standing in the pitlane in Vallelunga... Could be the same car as in the Monza test and thus they are probably testing it a little bit longer. -> http://www.supercarteam.com/laferrari-xx-foto-del-primo-esemplare/
     
  16. DM18

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    lmao - brochure of a cc car...
     
  17. ChalStrad

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    Testing is also a means of putting a maximum amount of stress on as many parts of the car as possible - even up until they break. This is the only manner in which a car can be developed so that when it is delivered to customers it is safe.

    The suspension failed in some way. Simple.
     
  18. crinoid

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    Peoples reactions to the rear wheel/suspension failure is hilarious. This is part of testing. Break it. Fix it. Break it again.
     
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    +1000
     
  20. redcaruser

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    Why hilarious? It was the most interesting sequence in this video. Apart from that I've only seen a LaFerrari with thin exhaust turning his round - not really spectacular, no new facts delivering… ;)
     
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    and try to fix it again!

    By the way, any idea regarding the price of the package this time for an XX?
     
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    ;)
     
  23. MisterMaranello

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    I'm guessing >€2M...
     
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