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  1. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    #1401 P300V8, Jan 3, 2017
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    There you go...from the orientation of your image one might have supposed the car was heading towards New Zealand...
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  2. em42

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    Looks beautiful in the best of surroundings! The pictures are really appreciated.
     
  3. ClaxNZ

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  4. em42

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    #1404 em42, Jan 21, 2017
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    Eventually some more progresses are being made on the engine after the very busy end of year.

    All the important measurements have been made and we are happy that the conrods and the crank are OK.

    However, some conrod bushes were worn causing oval movements. We were concerned that it affected also the conrods, but fortunately not.

    So the great news is that although initially the engine looked great, I was right to overhaul as the little end issue would have grown!
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  5. em42

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  6. raymondQV

    raymondQV F1 Rookie

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    Yes, that's what it says, the first italian owner ordered like this.
    In the seventies this caro was not uncommon, you can find it as well in Porsche 911 on that aera.
    Someone has to like it, not my taste at all, my silver-rose 951 Turbo (1988) had a caro as well, I replaced the seats later on.
     
  7. em42

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    A bit special, but I would like the fact that it is unique. Reminds me of the Countach with the Burburry's interior.
     
  8. P300V8

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    #1408 P300V8, Jan 21, 2017
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    Are we to assume that the stepped dash, fitted to the P250 bodied P111s and the P300 bodied cars, the P300 gear lever and gate, the body coloured engine compartment and boot, the white airbox lids, the spot lights and the wing mirror were also part of this special factory order?
     
  9. em42

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    Also a non S with air conditioning.
     
  10. P300V8

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    #1410 P300V8, Jan 21, 2017
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    I think AC was available on both and only as an extra. Electric windows and metallic paint were standard on the S.
     
  11. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    #1411 hyenahf, Jan 21, 2017
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    howdy ivor

    if its a really late 74 it might be possible to have the stepped dash. typically the P300 gear stick and gate came with the stepped dash but not always as i recall. there seems to be many anomalies. I got the early funky chuncky mod seats changed to the P111 type seats somewhere in between #15626 to #15630 a RHD car in 74. seems to me that there were a batch of RHD cars that came out around this time. first step dash in a P250 ive seen is #15142 then most were flat than again until #15828 then went flat again once more. 828 may have been retrofitted since its a thoroughly restored car?

    white airfilters lids were on a lot of cars maybe two dozen or more. i often wonder why it appeared on this one while other were mostly black?
    88k km is a lot of miles for a interior in that conditions. the ariel antenna dosent appear to be stock nor that alfa romeo wing mirror.
    my hunch is some of it may not be original.
     
  12. P300V8

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    #1412 P300V8, Jan 22, 2017
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    It is difficult to be completely certain as many cars have been "refreshed" over the years. However as far as I can tell all LHD cars with P300 bodies had the stepped dash and the open gear lever gate.

    The car in question has a P250 body and 2.4L engine so it would have had the covered gate. The stepped dash, the padded glove box and the roll over bar were fitted as a package to the P111s. This car does not have the roll over bar nor the padded glove box.

    The change in seat design may also have been related to P111 development but was adopted across all models. To determine where this change happened it might be more fruitful to base the analysis on the body number since Bertone used this as their reference number for trimming. Those P111 bodies were the final tranche of P250 bodies from 459 to 498 though a couple were used for P117s and these may well have the stepped dash etc.

    The P111 and P300 brochures show how these cars should have looked [thanks Kaare!]

    Scans of Lamborghini Urraco 111 brochure (1974a) - timpelen.com
    Scans of Lamborghini Urraco P300 brochure (1974b1) - timpelen.com

    Oh and another thing...notice that the dash in the brochure is covered in mouse hair not leather. This is another commonly seen change since the mouse hair was prone to fading and wear.
     
  13. dougieboxer

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    I'm replacing the crappy 90's radio in my 1974 250S for something more period - I'm tempted with a Voxson 8-track. What has everyone got in theirs? I'm assuming that all sorts were fitted from new, or it was left to the importers to sort out?

    Doug
     
  14. amc

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    what a dope interior, those seat lookso good like only the factory could do it.
     
  15. JohnMH

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    Hi, I am a new visitor to this section on F-Chat (L-Chat?); I am a Countach guy so I normally hang out there.

    A friend found a rough, non-running Uracco in need of a complete restoration which I will look at this weekend. I have taken on projects before (LP5000S, TR) but never considered a Uracco. In summary, are many parts NLA? If it is a 2.5 car (which I suspect it is) are there real reliability concerns which might make the project less than worthwhile? Is there anything which would make a Uracco an unsuitable restoration project generally?

    Does the little V8 make the drive a worthwhile experience? As the car should be pretty cheap I am not as concerned about being underwater (and as I haven't sold any of my completed projects yet I am not too worried about short term resale value).

    If I get the car I will post some pics.
     
  16. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    Any Urraco is worth saving! No panels are available but the majority of mechanical components are although prices can be eye watering. Viability really depends on its current state. For identification purposes the vin plate is inside the engine compartment and the body number is at the base of the engine cover support strut...
     
  17. Peter K.

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    Hey John, good to see you. YES, save it. I have said MANY times to Lambo owners that they must ad one to their stable. Not real expensive, be it then or now.
    It such a great car. VERY different from all other Lamborghinis. Very different than other marques. So easy to drive, like an old fiat.

    Post some photos if you are able.
     
  18. em42

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    Totally agree! This little car is a hidden jewel. The engine revs like hell and makes one of the most beautiful sounds ever. Plus the car is very nimble and agile, the roadholding is very good.

    Parts availability is comparable to other italian exotics, but I guess you know that sort of things!
     
  19. JohnMH

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    Alas, drove for an hour this afternoon to see it. Gone! Oh well, maybe next time.
     
  20. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    is this the blue rubber bumper car?
     
  21. JohnMH

    JohnMH Formula 3

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    I think so. Do you know more about it?
     
  22. P300V8

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    #1422 P300V8, Feb 13, 2017
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    For those of you who might have missed it, Urraco S 15420 just sold at auction in Paris for Euro 115K which is Euro 151k after fees etc. This was a nicely refurbished one owner chrome bumper car although with several non original features including a curious arrangement where the third air box should be...
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  23. LC3929

    LC3929 Formula Junior

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    You calculated as follows:

    115 hammer price + 15% fee 28,75 plus 20% vat 7,19 = 151

    Isn't something wrong in your maths? Please elaborate.
     
  24. Olivier NAMECHE

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    Artcurial Automobiles de Collection :

    • de 1 à 900 000 € : 16 % + TVA au taux en vigueur 20%
    • Au-delà de 900 000 € : 12 % + TVA au taux en vigueur


    it should be : 115.000 € + 16% x VAT (18.400 x 1.20 = 22.080 )

    => 137.080 €
     
  25. P300V8

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    Yes indeed. I really don't know what happened there! Still a good price though...
     

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