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Official Countach Value Thread

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  1. cnpapa24

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    You may be right. Perhaps $200k is the correct low end of the range to keep it in line with where I've valued the other variants. I still think $350k is the high end that I'd be comfortable with based on what I've seen. That sale may fall more in line with a delivery mile car outlier.
     
  2. Ellagirl

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    Well, somebody ,acc to Joe,forked up 400k on a fuelie, like it ,or not, also,a not desireable one,reg colors and stash, add your suggested 10% to that nmbr on a non bumper car,and your high nmbr should be(acc to nobody but your respectfully self)440$k all this mumbo jumbo,is offcourse ,nothing but wind bagging until a car actually sells at this nmbr ,that said,The bumper car did get400$k . And fits inn to your one of 3 categories
     
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    #5228 cnpapa24, Apr 16, 2017
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    To be fair, there are actual sales of almost every variant here that are above my high end range but one sale does not a new benchmark make. My goal is to establish a realistic set of values for owners and potential buyers to use for buying / selling. I am not here to pump values, the Countach will find its own way in the long run.
     
  4. Ellagirl

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    Ok. Got it.
     
  5. joe sackey

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    Exactly.
     
  6. andecorp

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    For reference, my mate in Australia just paid AU$900k for an absolutely mint, perfectly maintained, nothing to spend, 1 owner 1985 QV5000. Red/black, 33,000km, all books, receipts and even memorabilia from when the car was delivered new. He's been looking for a couple of years, rejecting much cheaper cars that were in much worse shape, then didn't think twice on spending the money on this one.
     
  7. joe sackey

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    The old adage "Buy the best one you can find" will serve you well both short and long term.
     
  8. cnpapa24

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    Thanks for the data point. So $685k US?
     
  9. andecorp

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    Correct! Unfortunately most people are not willing to listen.
     
  10. andecorp

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    Yes. Keep in mind though that this car has original paint, interior and so on, yet it looks like it has just come out of the factory. No paint craze, scratches or chips. No scratches, shrinkage or rips in the leather, etc.
     
  11. joe sackey

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    There are a handful of Downdrafts just like that with even less miles.
     
  12. Ellagirl

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    Here is the Million $ question, would a car in this condition/miles and so on,be worth more than a perfectley restored car, i am talking total gearbox dissasembley, gears checked ,shot peened, same with engine casings ,crank ,rods, basicly a "new" Countach iloabw ,100% taken down to Atoms,and back. Again, wich would be the more valuable?
     
  13. andecorp

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    Depends who's done the work. For me, if the factory did the resto, I'd choose that car. If the resto was done by anyone else, I'd choose the original car.
     
  14. EMILIO

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    to me:
    the most expensive would be a 100% original interior and body car like this WITH a fresh engine restoration
    that is the top imo
     
  15. christiann

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    I can go along with that but I can go along with full restoration also
     
  16. EMILIO

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    full restoration is also great IF done well
    but still...they are original only once and you can restore any car to the top, so all original is still the most value imo
     
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    IMO the best sort of cars is a "as original as possible" car, with a first owner who keeped all papers, invoices,covers and tools. Also the owner must have an eye for the detail and maintained the car as original as possible. Thats the top imo, if the engine is freshly restored by a known specialist is a plus point, of course!
     
  18. joe sackey

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    Agreed.

    Not to take anything away from original cars which are very special if well-preserved, but, Countachs, even under the Mimran era from 1981 to 1987, could have used a little more time & effort in the build phase, so essentially you get a car that is somewhat fragile by today's standards. Restoring a car thoroughly produces a car that will last more generations than the original one can and is more useable, simply because today's methods & materials are simply better than those of 30 years ago and result in a better product.
     
  19. joe sackey

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    Indeed, each to their own and its understandable that the "factory" association is important for some.

    That said, the Ferrari, Porsche and now the Lamborghini factories all offer restorations, and in each instance, I can think of entities that can perform restorations at least as well as those the factory is producing.

    I have personally seen restorations done by the same workers that comprise today's Polo Storico, and whilst they are very good, IMHO, Dugan Enterprises - Home is one entity that can do a restoration at least as well if not better.

    There may be others.
     
  20. Spyder-Man

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    Interestingly I was chatting to a well known and respected chap about this very subject, I. e Polo Storico and their restoration work. He said . . . if they could not build them right 30 years ago, what makes you think they can rebuild right today? I did laugh.

    There are advantages in using the factory. Part supplies and access to lots of engineering. But I echo Joe in that there are people / companies out there who can do it just as well if not better.

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    Sounds like a very special car. Congrats to your mate. Can I ask which side the steering wheel is on? Still wrestling with that issue of RHD/LHD valuations...

     
  23. andecorp

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    RHD car.
     
  24. joe sackey

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    :eek: :D

    FWIW, when we restored our car, part supplies were no problem, we never got anything from the factory, we sourced it all through independent suppliers.

    Also given that the restoration shop I used are essentially vintage race-car engine builders at their core, access to engineering was no issue either.

    Our restoration was more of a bespoke deal, where I was allowed to get involved and essentially be part of the team, following it along and seeing it progress through every stage, much of the outcome the result of my personal input.

    On the other hand, the factory restorations done by Ferrari, Porsche and now Lamborghini are more of a menu-selection/hands-off thing where you drop off your car and see it when its completed 1.5 years later.

    Certainly, there are advantages in using the factory if you want the cachet of the 'factory' restoration, but certain independent specialists who do work to an extremely high standard may be better-suited to carrying out work to exacting specifications, if that's what you want.
     

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