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  1. 246tasman

    246tasman Formula 3

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    It seems 0012M now rebodied in original style has it's own engine 0010M reinstalled.
    The engine was in 0008M for a while. What engine does the latter now have?
     
  2. Ernst

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    #9952 Ernst, Apr 12, 2017
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    Dear Mr Niles,

    Great to get your story about 0012M. And yes, the car has been put back to original as it was in 49. In fact when I bought the car in 97 from Darryl Greenamyer , all information available let us belief that originally it had a barchetta Touring body. It was quite a surprise to learn from Ferrari that this info is wrong and that the car had a special spyder body made at Ferrari. I had to give up my dream to own a barchetta.

    Cavallino Magazine had a nice article by Antoine Prunet about the car and his restoration in the February/March 2003 issue.

    I still have the Scaglietti like body and the 3l engine, which I belief is a GTE engine (no 3117). Will keep all items together with the car.

    Regards from Switzerland

    Ernst
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  3. Marcel Massini

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  4. Bertocchi

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    #9954 Bertocchi, Apr 12, 2017
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    Long time Ferrari enthusiast and recording artist Jay Giles was found dead in his Groton, Massachusetts home Tuesday. He died of natural causes.
    In 1983 the Lime Rock Vintage Fall festival honored Jay along with racing legend Maurice Tritignant. Pictured with them are Jay's TDF and the 375MM owned by Ralph Lauren.
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  5. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    John W. Geils owned 0901 GT from 1980 to 1986.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  7. HistoricFerrari

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    #9957 HistoricFerrari, Apr 12, 2017
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    Can anyone help with the following cars' histories after their respective accidents? Did they get rebuilt or was this the end of the line for both? Thanks!

    #16 Ferrari 246 of von Trips which was 'destroyed' in a first lap collision at Lesmo corner after colliding with Schell's BRM at the 1958 Italian GP at Monza.
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  8. HistoricFerrari

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    #9958 HistoricFerrari, Apr 12, 2017
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    And the second, this is an image of a fatal accident so please avoid this post if that's of concern to you.

    #18 Ferrari TR250 3-litre of Gurney & Kessler (driven here by Kessler) after colliding with the spun out #11 Jaguar D-Type driven by Jean-Marie "Mary" Brussin who sadly perished. Apparently the Ferrari burned completely, but I have no follow up image of the aftermath. 1958 Le Mans around ~7 hours into the race.
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  9. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #0666TR was the prototype 250TR built from a 290S chassis and Tipo 128 engine and ran Le Mans from '58 thru '60, despite hearing the same thing and the picture in the thread below looking pretty bad, #0666TR was apparently not wrecked at LM in '59 and returned to Maranello where the front and rear were repaired, the car had yet another minor accident before it was sold to a US owner who set fire to it in '64 as part of an insurance scam. Apart from some damage to the partly original bodywork it didn't cause that much damage and the car later spent two decades with Betz & Peters who restored it with the engine from #0724TR before sale to Jon Shirley. He in turn had Butch Dennison restore it around the original engine which had been bought from Pete Lovely and then sold it at Goodings Pebble Beach sale in 2011 for a then record $16.39 million.

    Another picture here:
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-ferrari-market/331038-merged-250tr-0666-tr-gooding-pebble-beach-2.html
     
  10. Bertocchi

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  11. Rossa156-63

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    Does anyone have a good photo of the #77 330 P2?
     
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  13. steve58

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    Hello, have other pictures from the front ?
     
  14. miurasv

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  15. HistoricFerrari

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    #9965 HistoricFerrari, Apr 15, 2017
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    XVe Grand Prix Automobile de Monaco

    Monte Carlo, May 19, 1957

    Photo: Guichard

    On the first lap, the 16 cars qualified to start, swept in a tight bunch into the gasworks turn. Fangio came out first, followed by Moss, who was so close that his car is invisible in the photograph, but his head (white helmet) seems close enough to read Fangio's rev counter. Collins in the Ferrari lies in third.
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    #9966 HistoricFerrari, Apr 16, 2017
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    Photo: Manciet-Dalmas

    On the third lap there were two British and four British drivers in the first five. Moss was leading on the Vanwall, in front of Collins (Ferrari), Fangio (Maserati), Brooks (Vanwall) and Hawthorn (Ferrari). On the fourth lap, Moss came down to the harbour too fast, and crashed head-on into the barrier at the chicane. Collins just avoided the Vanwall, only to crash into the barrier on the harbour's edge at the exact spot where he had crashed another car in the practice the previous day.
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    #9967 HistoricFerrari, Apr 16, 2017
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    (Cont. from previous post)
    Photo: Manciet-Dalmas

    A pole from the demolished barricades falls across the track. Brooks breaks, and Hawthorn, taken by surprise, tears a front wheel off his Ferrari against the back of the Vanwall. The wheel complete with brake flew into the harbour, while the car crashed on top of Collins's machine. Fangio went through unscathed, and Brooks continued in second place.
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  18. HistoricFerrari

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    #9968 HistoricFerrari, Apr 16, 2017
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    (Cont. from previous post.)
    Photo: Debraine

    After the fourth lap, the result was a forgone conclusion, and Fangio circulated regularly past the wrecked cars of his young rivals. This time there had been no one to be fished out of the harbour, but the frogmen on the rescue boats kept up their vigil until the end of the race.
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  19. Marcel Massini

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    #9969 Marcel Massini, Apr 16, 2017
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  20. GIOTTO

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  21. HistoricFerrari

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    #9971 HistoricFerrari, Apr 20, 2017
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    1957 Ferrari 4.9 Superfast, based on 410 Superamerica, chassis 0719SA

    The Super Fast coupe on the Super America chassis, with 335 B.H.P. V-12 engine of 4,960 c.c. The simple, uncluttered line suggests speed, even when stationary.

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    #9972 HistoricFerrari, Apr 20, 2017
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    XLIIIe Grand Prix de l'A.C.F
    Rouen, July 7, 1957

    Photo: Debraine

    Next to Fangio, Luigi Musso on a Ferrari made the best impression. He challenged the World Champion, and managed to get within 15" of him, setting up a new lap record at 102.76 m.p.h. But he spun at the Nouveau-Monde corner, losing 12", and continued more circumspectly, to finish second, 51" behind the winner.
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    #9973 HistoricFerrari, Apr 20, 2017
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    Grand Prix d'Europe 1957
    10th R.A.C. British Grand Prix
    Aintree, July 20, 1957

    Photo: Klemantaski

    Musso drove a consistent and determined race, without incidents, and took second place when Behra retired and Hawthorn stopped with a puncture.
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  24. HistoricFerrari

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    #9974 HistoricFerrari, Apr 20, 2017
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    Photo: Debraine

    Black face light goggles, light face, black goggles. Mike Hawthorn (Ferrari) tailing the American driver MacKay Frazer (BRM) who was to be killed at Reims a week later. Hawthorn finished 4th; Frazer retired, but on the strength of this drive he was immediately given a contract with BRM, which he did not live to fulfill.
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  25. HistoricFerrari

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    #9975 HistoricFerrari, Apr 20, 2017
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    XIX Grosser Preis von Deutschland
    Nürburgring, August 4, #1957

    Photo: Guichard

    On the first lap at the South Curve Hawthorn and Collins (Ferrari) are followed closely by Fangio and Behra (Maseratis), Moss (Vanwall), Musso (Ferrari), Schell (Maserati) and Lewis-Evans (Vanwall). Farther behind are Gregory (Maserati), Brooks (Vanwall), Salvadori (Cooper) and Herrmann's white Maserati.
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