I Miss my 360 3 pedal - What is the replacement?

That's my wife, BTW. She likes practical gifts like appliances. My second son too. A few Christmases ago he wanted an electric pencil sharpener.

I like toys.

 

Before twisting yourself in knots over three pedals, consider the better paddles.

The early F1 boxes were like a bear on a bicycle: it's not how well he rides, it's that he does it at all.

But the newer twin clutch boxes are pretty good.

I had serious qualms about giving up the third pedal, but rheumatoid arthritis had me wanting to hedge my bets.
In my case, it's the right knee, but my ankle can still heel & toe the 328.
But for my DD, having the option to left foot brake buffered against the future.
So, with huge trepidation, I got an EVO X MR with the Getrag twin clutch --- the baby brother of the box in a Cali or 456.
This was my first "two pedal" car since '73.

But I'm not finding the twin clutch to be a "disappointment". I still do my own shifting. There are just fewer steps involved.

Not all TCs are programmed equal. The same Getrag from the 456 is used in a Merc -- but tuned less on edge.
(I saw an article online, a while back, exploring why the same box in a Merc seemed "worse".)

That said, you might want to consider a Ferrari California spider. Twin clutch, tiny rear seat, and a Ferrari badge.

If you don't need the folding top and want a cheaper option, there's the Alfa Giulia QF. But that may be just a better M3.
The Alfa has a paddle operated slush box, rather than a twin clutch, but it's reportedly a very good paddle box, and *may* be more reliable.
(There's been a mad rush to TC boxes, resulting in some newer ones with "teething" issues.)

As for the low seats, I do find that a folding cane can be handy for climbing out of the 328.
But then, with the top on, getting out of the 328 was always a bit like rolling out onto the ground and then doing push-ups.

 

Get a Maserati GranTurismo. Italian, sounds great, looks great, real back seats you can sit in unlike 911 or AM, soft or hard top, good prices on late models.

 

996 Turbo, or Cayman GT4 if you can manage 2 seats.

 

Ferrari Mondial T - Valeo

 

... this from the company founded by the man commissioned by Hitler to make the beetle?

 

My perspective on these three comes from ownership/ personal experience.

The E39 M5 is probably my favorite of all the cars I've owned. Pretty fast, sounds phenomenal with mild exhaust modification and you can toss it around with traction control off like a sports car. Also vault-like and plenty of room for 4-5 people. You can pick up a nice one for around $25-30k. Repairs expensive but an order of magnitude lower than ferrari running cost.

F355 is a mid-engine screamer, probably a little more analog than your 360, but I've never driven a 360. Nice spiders can be had in the 60k range. Some people like the F1s but the sticks are readily available. I have had mine in for a major for the past few months and I seriously miss the top-down driving with associated sounds and i really miss the shifting, which brings me to the......

612. I've had this beast since october and it's great. I have four young kids and use the back seats all the time. Two average sized adults can sit one behind the other in comfort. The car is almost too fast in a straight line and remarkably nimble. Also, it sounds awesome (mine is 2009 OTO, earlier non-HGTC models were very quiet), and the interior is really rich and smells like a tannery. This car is pretty refined but it likes to play when asked. Sticks are prohibitively expensive so u shoiuld probably stick with '05/'06 if u want to spend $80-$90k or 2009-10 OTO, if you want more features, faster shifting and a bit more power. These are in the $135-$165 range.

Good luck hunting!!

Vic

 

lencap, life is too short. Don't compromise one bit unless you quite frankly can't afford it.

I went to a funeral last weekend for my nurses sister. She was 33 and died of a stroke!

You know what you want. You know where you want to be and it sounds like you want it be a Ferrari or you wouldn't be here. There's a stick 360 that's got a ton of miles with an ask of $45k on fleabay. That could be your final option if you want. Buy it and drive it forever.
Don't do the Aston. They british POS. Every idiot I know are buying them for $3x,xxx. They're going to depreciate to $2x,xxx like the DB7. They're essentially Jags. Lead anchors. You're going to see a Ferrari on the road and wonder why you didn't buy it. Test the 612, test drive the 430.. and make the call.

Life is too short to compromise my friend.

 

Don't think there is any difference in power. Mine is an 07 HGTC - cruising on freeway I actually wouldn't mind being able to close the exhaust valves... open at 3000 RPM....

 

Jes,

Thats funny...I actually do not have the HGT2 exhaust, so i pulled and plugged the vacuum line hoses so that I could hear it while cruising and during downshifts. Its a bit tamer than the sport exhaust.

The power rating is the same for both generations, 540 hp, but some have suggested that the later F133H models may have a bit more power. No clue if it is true.

Love your scag by the way. Probably my favorite spec...silverstone over cuoio.

Vic

 

Too funny... Though, the 612 OTO definitely preferred over the 2005-2007. Mid/late 2007 preferred over the 2005-early 2007 due to upgraded Nav/entertainment. The valves are done smarter on the 430 Scuderia (and probably later models) as they open as a function of throttle position and not just RPM...

 

Note that most good independents do have the Ferrari computer and can do the exact same thing the dealer can in terms of reading wear of clutch (on F1 cars) etc.

 

Lencap, the thread title begins "I miss my 360 3-pedal....". I think the first point in your decision tree might be whether or not it need be replaced with a 3 pedal car. The ferrari options significantly narrow if the answer is yes. Or is the priority that it must be from maranello? That would be A possible way to focus your search quickly.

I find it so much fun hunting for cars that even a complete stranger's pursuit brings me joy. I wish you luck!!

 

If it's sound you're looking, you can't beat a F360 with a Tubi. But, you probably already know that.

 

Lencap, you indicated age and arthritis issues. My wife had an SL and I hated it because I found it impossible to get in and out of due to arthritis in my hips. The Cali, 430 and other Ferrari V8s will all have similar issues because of the low slung chassis. I have a 612 and I have no such issues. It is amazing what a difference a couple of inches of height will make when you are old and decrepit. 😀

Based on all of your other comments, the 612 seems to tick your boxes.

On the cost of ownership, the 612 is a "modern" Ferrari and so maintenance costs seem to be relatively low. I have owned my 612 for 2 years and have had no issues.

Another way to look at it is, a car under warranty is likely to hugely depreciate. On the 612 you don't have that issue (I think it is near bottom in terms of depreciation) and so you can put some of the money you are saving on depreciation towards maintenance. The key is to do your homework and buy well in terms of both condition and price.

I can tell you the 612 is a great daily driver and the big V12 ticks the old school boxes (and thanks to Taz I plugged the vacuum lines on the exhaust and the V12 sounds even better!).

 

2009-ish 911 turbo
California