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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bertocchi, Jan 14, 2006.

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  1. Marcel Massini

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  2. JBenzo

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    Message for jdfelter

    The V6 engine from the 246 (158-006) that Bandini (mostly) raced in 1966 is up for sale here in the UK. Was 006 a car from the Setton collection and was the V6 displaced by a 3-litre V12? I'm interested in how it came to be parted from the chassis.

    It's for a news story in the first edition of a new independent quarterly Ferrari magazine - 'Enzo' - to be published here in the UK.
     
  3. Christian.Fr

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  5. F1tommy

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    To bad they ferried the Lockheed R-6V Constitution to Opa Locka and scrapped it in the late 1970's.
     
  6. PSk

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    According to this link the 2.4 v6 was removed to convert the car back to 1.5 litre format: 1966 Ferrari 228 Formula 1 Engine | William I'Anson Ltd
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  7. mcimino

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    #10032 mcimino, Jul 17, 2017
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    Did Enzo destroy these sharknose toys too? Does anyone know if the cars up on the bookshelf still exist?
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  8. merstheman

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    Not toys, probably clay design models.
     
  9. omd78

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    First picture taken at the Amstel Hotel in Amsterdam.

    Gr. Martin
     
  10. Boudewijn

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    The first car is 250 GT Speciale 2613GT (Amsterdam 1962) and the second car is 330 SF Speciale 6267SF at The Hague 1966.
     
  11. intrepidcva11

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    Oh my! I stayed with my dad at the Amstel in July 1950 when I was still very young!
     
  12. PG1964

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    Credit: ©Riccardo Moncalvo, Archivio Riccardo Moncalvo Torino
     
  13. Ed Niles

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  14. mcimino

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    Wow! Thanks Mr. Niles. Now those would be nice too have in a collection today.
     
  15. PSk

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    Interesting that even Ferrari could not accurately replicate a 250GTO ... ;)
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  16. Bryanp

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    Notice the 4 cylinder motor in the third pic; could be a left over race motor from the 1954 553 F1 series, most likely a 2.5 liter. Notice the strange crankcase side and the horizontally placed magnetos. Larger velocity stacks than the 2 liter motors
     
  17. Jeff Kennedy

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    Could it be an ASA motor since they were Ferrari built?
     
  18. DWR46

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    The valve cover shape tells us it is a 750 Monza or late 500 Mondial (Series II) engine. I seem to recall it is a Monza motor from discussions from many years ago. Whether it has horizontal or vertical magnetos or distributors is not critical , as a variety of front covers will fit the same blocks. I am sure it was built up of bits and pieces laying around the factory when they needed to power the wind tunnel.
     
  19. Admiral Goodwrench

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    Dear Dyke,

    I too recall a discussion of this motor many years ago and do not recall the specific answer. I believe that the cylinder head with the wide included valve angle and flat topped valve covers could be from the 53 or 54 553 Formula which would match up with the horizontal magnetos, or the 750 Monza or the 857/860 Monza. The size of the velocity stacks rules out the 2 liter versions (500 Mondial Series 2 tipo 111, and the 53 553 F2) as these babies look to be either 50 or 58 DCOA Webers. The crankcase also leads one to the conclusion that this is indeed a bitsa. In those days nothing would surprise me.

    Best regards,

    Robert
     
  20. DWR46

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    Robert: Agree 100%.

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  21. Lussolover

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    Does anyone know where I can find b&w photo Marcel posted of 4213gt lusso I believe at it's first race event. Pretty darned sure it was 4213. I have been looking all over but can't find the thread it was posted in.

    Thanks you.
     
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  25. PSk

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    I love how any Ferrari that has been raced, suddenly becomes a Competizione model ... lol. It was/is just a 1962 250 GT Lusso that was raced a few small times. 4213GT was not a specially built competizione version.

    I guess I used to own an '76 Alfa Sud 1.3 Ti Competizione ... gee I wish I had added the competizione bit when I sold it ;) :D
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