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  1. S_AGATA

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  2. joe sackey

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    That's pushing it.

    All I've ever asserted and all I'm interested in demonstrating conclusively.
     
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    #23853 joe sackey, Aug 3, 2017
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    If anyone thought Walter Wolf's Countachs were for show and not go, here is race-car driver Stanislao Sterzel pushing 1120202 hard in the track.
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    I'd call Discovery channel to shoot the first Countach-only illegal drag event. :D Come on, haha.

    Btw, Koenigsegg uses Valvoline VR-1 as the only recommended factory oil.
     
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    #23857 joe sackey, Aug 4, 2017
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    Very interesting, and thank you for sharing, I've always had him listed as Carrier even in some Lamborghini material, I will make the correction.

    Along similar lines here is a letter from Ferruccio himself terminating USA dealer Jake Kaplan.
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    No need to involve them, this is a project for a private film production company and a major classic car magazine simultaneously covering the event at a motorsports or testing venue where there are no speed restrictions, all perfectly legal.
     
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    #23859 hyenahf, Aug 4, 2017
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    excellent pic joe! thanks for sharing...

    here is another grainy one i scanned. article says he gave this S to his son for a jeep grand cherokee to drive on the ranch...
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    #23860 joe sackey, Aug 4, 2017
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    Excellent image, thanks for posting it.

    This is the follow-up Wolf Countach, 1121002, the prototype production LP400S, in it's distinctive Wolf Racing dark blue-and-gold livery, same as were on his F1 cars.

    The helicopter behind the Countach is also in the same livery, Wolf gave it to Ferrari F1 ace Gilles Villeneuve, who can be seen in it arriving @ Monza in 1982, below.
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    #23861 joe sackey, Aug 4, 2017
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    This begs the question, why would Wolf give Gilles Villeneuve a helicopter?

    Villeneuve and Wolf were friends, and the former drove the latter's Wolf Dallara WD1 Can-Am race car - see below.

    This is the Can Am car that Gianpaolo Dallara built for Wolf, so Countach LP400S fans will note this with interest because of the Wolf - Dallara association.

    Dallara is responsible for Wolf's Countachs, 1120148, 1120202 and 1121002.

    Also, incidentally, it is Dallara who introduced Wolf to Frank Williams, who got Wolf into F1.

    Anyway, therein lies the Countach link, so we are not entirely off-topic!
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    Great pictures, my absolute favorit racing series of all time. My next door neighbor, Tom Anderson was part of Bruce Mc Laren team for many years(late 60 s 70 s) then ran /owned Anderson /Adrian Fernandes indy team for years.anyway,also the fact they basicly ran "boat engines,"with exeption ,of cuorse Porsche flat air cooled 12 s,wich in combo with the oil situation,and the fact they outclassed everybody, ended the whole sircus.
     
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    And,thanks for posting,
     
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    villeneuve possibly catching a lift from walter? i cant recall which 82 Italian GP gilles got his radio equipment stolen from his personal helicopter, monza or imola?

    dallara, frank williams and parks all worked for detomaso short lived defunct F1 team in 70 or so...
     
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    #23868 LC3929, Aug 5, 2017
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    Monza 1982? Certainly not for the Monza GP as he died before, during practice in Zolder.
     
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    They were essentially Mulettas.

    That's not Wally beside him, not sure who it is though.

    I never mentioned "GP", this was likely testing there for Ferrari or the tire company, that said the photographer has captioned the image "Monza 1982".
     
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    Yes, but your readers should know that this photo was not made during Monza GP 1982 and you certainly agree.
     
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    Me too, very nice photo!
     
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    Some excellent Gilles Villeneuve info. Now for a real challenge to the Countach historians. Does anyone have a photo of Gilles driving a Countach?
     
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    #23873 gday, Aug 5, 2017
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    Well ok. So lets go back to QVs.

    The images in the above post are being misrepresented as being DD vs FI and so are the part #s. The 1st image is from a 2 valve car - specifically a 5000S. The 2nd image is from a 4 valve car - likely a QV - but could easily be an LM or 25th. Given the part #, its from a 25th.

    The first clue here would have been Chad's posts re pistons:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-cats-exotics/542653-lets-build-engine-4.html#post145321908
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/145323653-post76.html
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/145323952-post77.html

    A second clue is the referenced "high dome" piston having cutouts for only 2 (cross sectional) valves.

    So let me be very clear - I'm saying that there is no difference with the pistons between a QV DD and a QV FI and the parts books back me up. If you have a pic of a real 4 valve QV piston with what you describe as a "high dome", I'd love to see it. Maybe then we can move back to the other 4 valve differences.

    -mick
     
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    It's not possible, the QV/25th needs a dished piston to compensate the small combustion chamber. So even a flat top would likely lead to ridiculous compression ratios (14:1 and etc), no need to speak about domed pistons.

    P.S. That's all for good. A small combustion chamber allows narrower valve angle, better port angles and shorter flame travel (which is very very important factor, allows to burn fuel quicker). You only have 90 degrees of rotation to produce a power stroke, after 90 degrees you can open the exhaust valve.
     
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    #23875 DaniT, Aug 6, 2017
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    Mick, how can you claim that I misinterpret the parts of my engines? Have you ever had such an engine on your bench or do you base your claim on information you found somewhere on the web ?

    The factory QV DD pistons have a higher dome than the factory QV FI pistons. In fact the producer was simply machining the DD piston "dome" to reduce the compression. The pistons on Chads picure have the shape of FI pistons.

    The 5000S pistons are completely different. I overhaul currently two 5000S engines, two QV engines (FI and DD) and three 3.9L engines (LP400, Espada and Jarama).
     

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