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250 GTO 4399 Crashed at Goodwood Revival.

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    Some time soon after or during 1965 the oval and rectangular lights were removed, bumpers and wind up windows added for road use. If you look at the Robert Hardy video the car doesn't have the oval or rectangular lights. The rectangular lights have now been re applied but not the oval ones.
     
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    Compare the top left hand corner of the inside of the doors from pic in Giotto's post. It's straight in Peter Singhof pic and curved in the smaller (Boudewijn) pic.
     
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    "Ferrari - Objects of Art". A big and heavy book. There is also the David Clarke book "Ferrari 250 GTO". Inside are some photos of the restoration of #4399GT and some b&w photos of the car with bumpers.
     

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    Thanks. I have these. I thought the dash pic was familiar. :)
     
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    I wonder why Bamford changed the dash? One thing is certain; 4399 wouldn't get a Red Book, if still as pictured here.
     
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    Here is 4399 at Goodwood in 2007 2008 and 2012. In 2012 the car did not take part in the race only in a parade. That seems to be the only time since 2007 that the same car that was at the St James Concours was at Goodwood
     

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    Absolutely nuts to race these original vintage cars. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this thread, but racing these car is crazy. Restore it to perfection, drive it rarely/sparingly at celebration events, take it to the greatest concourses in the world and leave it be.
     
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    I agree with you for cars that are in an original condition, i.e. unrestored cars with patina that can never be restored to this condition again. But in particular a GTO is a product of its outstanding history and shows the marks thereof. It has lost his original condition with its frist race crash already. I'm very happy that some owners do not hide such a car in their vault, but let us enthusiasts take part in the fun they have when racing such icons.
    It's like you'd undergo a cosmetical surgery to restore your birth condition ;)
     
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    I was a tad hasty there. Bamford must have changed the dashboard to correct it. 4399GT with '64 body had the '64 dashboard. See screenshots from British Pathe video of 1964 500 km of Spa which Parkes won. I think the steering wheel pictured in the Objects of Art Ferrari Berlinetta book may have been the correct one though.
     
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    Do I see it right? Whenever the car is raced the wipers are pointing to the left, when the car is on demo or concours they are to the right???
     
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    It looks like you're seeing it right.
     
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    Did this car race at the Revival in 2004?
     
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    A google search of Goodwood Revival images seems to show that the car with the right point wipers (presumably the original) raced at Goodwood up to 2005. From 2006 onwards whenever it has raced it has had wipers pointing to the left and the slightly droopy side light. 2006 was also the year that the car started to be a lot more competitive in the race.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Here are a few of my pictures of 4399 and the replica. I'll post them by event. I've concentrated on the positioning of the headlights and other lights and openings in the nose. The real 4399 used to have no riveted ridge around the rectangular lights (foglights?) below the headlights. Much later it did gain that ridge, but with only four poprivets. The replica has twelve rivets.
    The round light positioned between the front wheel well and the headlight is differente between the real thing and the replica. In later years you'll notice that even the spacing of the registration APB1 is different!

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