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  1. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

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    The endurance races are kicking my but

    Think the last one the cool vest & helmet blower weren't working or it was so hot they were just nullified. I'm guessing it's 120-130 in the cockpit.

    Do I need to work out in a sauna to handle this ?

    After last race I made it back to RV & lay down for 30 min to recover
     
  2. joker57676

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    Cardio. Lots of cardio. Then more cardio. High heat cardio. Running (not lightly jogging). HIIT training. Interval training. I'm talking 1000-1500 calorie sessions multiple times a week...and then more running.



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  3. TexasF355F1

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    While wearing jogging pants and jacket.

    Hot yoga might be a good idea too.
     
  4. WILLIAM H

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    Thanks, can't run but I can do it on my bike on the beach
     
  5. joker57676

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    You need to find a way to go high intensity (I mean extended high heart rate and sweating buckets intensity) and if you can do that on the beach, awesome. If not, check out other venues. The beach has always been too crowded for me to ever really train hard, at least on a bike. Also, you have to increase your resistance, which means a lot of hills on the bike.



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  6. DonJuan348

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    training intensely in the heat acclimates yourself to the heat. and it takes time
     
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    What Mark said - and get yourself a stationary bike and as others pointed out long pants and jacket......turn off the AC (or outside) and get going. But start out slowly and work your way up.
     
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    Yep. The key is to raise your body temp and sustain that raised temp to train your body to deal with it. Everyone deals with heat and humidity differently, but you can train yourself to adapt, but it takes A LOT of work.


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  9. greg328

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    I've been running forever, but lately I've been really enjoying running in Houston's triple digit heat! I'm building my endurance at a faster-than-normal rate, and I'm leaning out more than ever. It's very difficult at first, but the human body is amazing in how it can adapt and succeed in a tough environment.
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    They mentioned on the telecast that the F1 guys were doing this before Singapore, riding stationary bikes.
     
  11. NousDefions

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    Adding heat to a workout is a terrible idea unless you are an elite athlete or are doing yoga.

    Like Joker said, high intensity interval training. The make you puke twice kind. Most people don't know what a hard workout feels like and are very surprised when they finally do one.
     
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    I would think that one of the more critical issues is cognitive functioning at those temps. Even with training to condition the body to heat there is still the issue of the brain getting to hot. Visual motor coordination is useally the first to go, it's one thing running or riding a bicycle but it's a whole 'nother ball game piloting a 200MPH race car. There is a lot of brain processing going on as a race car driver.

    heat training for cardiovascular efficiency is a good idea, though it sounds like something that should be monitored by a trainer familiar with doing such as hyperthermia is dangerous on the brain.

    A couple links to cover the basics:
    F1 Framework: Psychological and physiological demands of F1
    Car racing: in the heat of competition

    Here's an article on vapor compression vests.
    http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2238&context=iracc

    Apparently there are sauna suits for hyperthermic conditioning as well.
     
  13. crazy canuck

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    I too - like others here - advocate cardiovascular training like HIIT -- biking is an option if running doesn't work BUT -- I'd highly recommend getting a once over from at least a GP or a plus would be a cardiologist.

    Have a stress test, and EKG done under medical supervision so you can see any potential issues.

    after that -- start small and work your way up..A clean diet full of natural vasodilating foods will also help

    Good luck on your journey!
     
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    Bikram Yoga
    90 minutes 26 poses in 102degree heat

    it improves your concentration as well as stamina
     
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    Crossfit.

    No AC, high intensity, constantly varied.

    If you'd like to try it for free let me know. I go to one up in Pompano but it would give you an idea of what to expect. We train all year in the heat. You'll work your way into it but you will work like never before. I lost count of just how many "in shape" people came in and couldn't keep up.

    Every location has a different focus and mindset so be sure to look around and find the one where you click and won't get hurt.
     
  16. WILLIAM H

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    #16 WILLIAM H, Oct 12, 2016
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    I started working out In sauna at 125 F doing a long complex set including squats & upper body. I look like I just came pit of the pool after 20 min. It definitely helped w the racing. Now I just need to fit an excercise bike in there LOL.

    As for elite athlete, yeah !!! ;)
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  17. WILLIAM H

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    I def had at least two ridiculously hot races. Sebring in Aug & another summer race at Homestead. After 55min @ Homestead @ 130F in the race car my judgement was out the window. The Sebring race was just brutal.

    Luckily I recently discovered a head cooling system by COOL SHIRTS that I'll try put in the spring.

    No more sauna training for me till March :)
     
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    I would agree. I started at a box in Vegas in June. It's run by all military, ex-military, and other law enforcement personnel. Their original focus was getting people prepped for boot camp or selection for spec op units. They've since established a more diverse clientele, but the workouts are still rough. The guy who programs everything LOVES long, grueling workouts with lots of cardio and lots of outside in the sun and heat. We definitely have our heavy days, but that's not the main focus.

    In the heat, it's brutal, but the results speak for themselves. As you said, lots of athletes come in and get killed. It's a really humbling, but fun, environment. Great group of people there.




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    Its a game changer
     
  20. WILLIAM H

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    Heat coming back to MIA. I dropped 20# since Jan.

    Going back into Sauna soon
     
  21. WILLIAM H

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    Was karting yesterday, that's a Beehatch of a workout.

    Was far more strenuous than a 2 hr bike ride.

    It's like you're wrestling w the kart.
     
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    Break any ribs. I know cart racers that wear what looks like a modified flack jacket. Intense for sure. (Of course, depends if you are talking about a bike ride on a level road or bombing down the side of a mountain.)
     
  23. WILLIAM H

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    Yes got my rib vest on & a motorcycle armor suit
     
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    Car racing when outside temps 75+ even with a cool suit can really tax your body. When temps 90+, a little longer race, and no or little cool suit = torture! :) my early days racing in Texas you had to put up with heat or never race, we didn't wear cool suits either. I was doing triathlons at time and running half-marathons, but when I hurt end of a race I knew everyone else was hurting that much worse. Many times racers had heat stroke symptoms and ambulances were called. There is only so much you can do, but do all you can!

    1) As said expose yourself to heat much as possible and high intensity workouts in heat (HR racing can hit near your max, so workout near max). Running is best, hard to get your HR up that high walking or cycling, so maybe stair climber? Summers college I worked a warehouse job where it was 90+ inside 10 hour shift. My body got so use to it I couldn't stand the AC on at home.

    2) If you don't have one already, spend $10 on a window air vent that blows right at your head. Easiest thing to do and makes big impact!

    3) I never used a cool suit, but get the best one you can.

    4) Stay hydrated days before and during event, no partying with Bubbles!

    5) After each session pour cool water on head and put icepack back of neck. Also get back into AC to recover.
     

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