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  1. nickinafrica

    nickinafrica Karting

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    #1 nickinafrica, Jan 4, 2015
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    After 6 months of sorting out problems and refurbishing, this is the progress so far on 12187, The vehicle was basically straight but had oil leaks, sad interior, ran like a pig and a few electrical problems.
    The main oil leaks were coming from the "C" cups in the back of the cylinder heads, this appears to be a common problem. I stripped out all the interior & refurbished all the leather apart from a couple of pieces that needed replacing, compared to modern cars, the leather in these things is very hard wearing and came back to life very well, full marks to Glipton in the U.K. they provided all the treatment for the leather. the poor performance was being caused a number of things like vacuum leaks, blocked filters (main & primary), low fuel pressure so I fitted adjustable regulators and a faulty connection on the TPS. it still needs the CATS replacing (or removing). I was going to re-paint the whole car, but after a couple of days flatting the paint with 2000 grit and a lot of polishing, it only needs the roof doing and the full re-paint can wait. I also overhauled the front bump stops as they were leaking.
    I still need to replace a front oil seal in the transfer box, and have some parts replaced in the exhaust, fit all new door seals, and of course find suitable replacements to the Pirelli 345/60 R17 tires, I am not happy with the BFG 315/70 R17.
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  2. EarlyCat

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    #2 EarlyCat, Jan 4, 2015
    A well spent 6 months. Beautiful.
     
  3. porkchopious

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    #3 porkchopious, Jan 4, 2015
    That is F-ing cool! Well done!
     
  4. BlueBiturbo

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    #4 BlueBiturbo, Feb 8, 2015
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    I must have missed this thread when I was hospitalized.

    Great work Nick !
    The C-cups is always a problem.
    Repainting the whole car is not that hard, most of the fiberglass panes are easily removable, except the steel doors.

    I also dont like the BFG 315/70-17 but I put that on all 4 corners. You seem to mix them, BFGs on the front and Scorpions on the rear. That will not be good.

    Hope You will finish the repairs soon.
     
  5. Bas

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    #5 Bas, Feb 8, 2015
    it looks ****ing awesome. The paint flattening makes it look newer :)
     
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    #6 porkchopious, Feb 8, 2015
    That is one mean looking brick of a truck! The LM002 has always been on my "list" of must own cars.
     
  7. gt4me

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    #7 gt4me, Feb 8, 2015
    What a beast, the interior looks great.
     
  8. DesignPlanBuild

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    #8 DesignPlanBuild, Mar 3, 2015
    She is gorgeous !


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  9. Spyder-Man

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    #9 Spyder-Man, Mar 4, 2015
    I get the impression that you may be in the market for one? There are a few for sale at this time. I would love one on my drive. Love this model. . .
     
  10. DesignPlanBuild

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    #10 DesignPlanBuild, Mar 4, 2015
    I'm kicking myself because 5 years ago these things were worth nothing

    The value of this thing over the next 5-10yrs........


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  11. BlueBiturbo

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    #11 BlueBiturbo, Mar 4, 2015
    Nick,

    Did You find anything better than BFG 315/70 ?
     
  12. nickinafrica

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    #12 nickinafrica, Mar 5, 2015
    No nothing, very frustrating, one thing for sure - not paying $20,000 for a set of Pirelli's.
    Very funny reading some of the compliments posted, when I was considering buying the LM 2 years ago, I posted my intensions and someone replied that maybe I need certifying!!! Maybe I do, but I love the machine, there is nothing to touch them for OTT appeal
     
  13. DesignPlanBuild

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    #13 DesignPlanBuild, Mar 5, 2015
    , but I love the machine, there is nothing to touch them for OTT appeal[/QUOTE]


    Nick, how is the ride, overall?
    Overly curious about the machine.


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  14. nickinafrica

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    #14 nickinafrica, Mar 5, 2015
    Considering how heavy they are the handling is very good, you can really through the thing into corners, and it just go where you point it & stay very flat, very little role, and the brake are well up to the job as well, if I was going to complain, the clutch is heavy & the lock is not great, but hell it's a 450Hp 3 ton truck that was designed nearly 30 years ago. The engineering is so over the top, I am surprised they are not heavier, I have to admit it is NOT the most practical mode of transport I have owned.
     
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    #15 BlueBiturbo, Mar 5, 2015
    Rather than building the URUS, I think Lambo could make a good profit by reproducing the LM002 with brand new Huracan Engine.
     
  16. Rifledriver

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    #16 Rifledriver, Mar 5, 2015
    We do


    Nothing sane about owning one.
     
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    #17 Rifledriver, Mar 5, 2015
    That is the thing that surprise people the most is how well it handles.
     
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    #18 Rifledriver, Mar 5, 2015


    We have one and I disagree. Many things about it's construction that made sense for a military vehicle but not a road vehicle, even and on/off road vehicle.

    It would be better in every way if it was on a serious diet. It is just too heavy.
     
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    #19 Rifledriver, Mar 5, 2015
    Nick, what don't you like about the BFG tires? Very curious.

    I do agree it would be better to have them on both ends. Some cars become vicious with mixed tires and this may be one.



    BTW, contacted Pirelli and they don't sound interested in ever making more.
     
  20. DesignPlanBuild

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    #20 DesignPlanBuild, Mar 5, 2015

    +1


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    #21 vaholtorf, Mar 5, 2015


    I've run those BFG tires, and here's my summary:
    They run very nice down the road. The sidewall is still very stiff and gives great handling/feel.
    They don't look as cool because they are not as wide, but that makes the truck go down the road nicer without as much tramlining. They are actually better in snow, as the narrower and more modern tread is better than the original in snow, but probably not as good in sand....?
    They are a bit taller, which actually makes the speedometer MORE accurate! But, they rub on the left front wheel well liner when turning at maximum angle.
    Overall, I'm happy with them as a relatively low cost, modern, and safe alternative.
     
  22. Rifledriver

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    #22 Rifledriver, Mar 5, 2015
    My Scorpions rub there too so I suppose that is a truck to truck variation. Glad to hear my speedo is not the only one.

    More chance of me needing snow capability than sand so that is a good thing. I can tell you the original Scorpion Zero was a rotten snow tire. Never had the new Scorpions in snow so can't comment.

    Thanks for the information.
     
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    #23 BlueBiturbo, Mar 5, 2015
    So... no more 345/60-17 tires again ever?
     
  24. nickinafrica

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    #24 nickinafrica, Mar 6, 2015
    I must agree, the designers could have saved a couple of hundred Kg's without too much trouble, you can see they used 3mm steel where 1.5mm would have been fine, if the designer were working under Colin Chapman (Lotus) he would have been pulling his hair, mind you old Lotus fall in pieces, LM's don't.
    The BFG 315/70 is too tall & not wide enough, mine catch the bulkhead on the drivers side, they just don't look right, you are right about mixed profile, if I cannot get a tyre nearer the size I want I will have to fit 315/70 on the rear as well, it's on the list of things still to do, at the moment I have my 512bb in pieces!!!! too much work, not enough time.
     
  25. taz55555

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    #25 taz55555, Mar 6, 2015
    If you need Pirelli tires.
    We have a set of 5.

    Pm if interested.

    Taz
     
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