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Old 06-17-2017, 03:14 AM
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Im very sure its JLA12290. He still owns it, as far as i know. I just live 20mins away from him.

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Was the picture taken by you? If so I'm happy to give credit. That said, I see my copyrighted images posted all over the internet and when I encounter them I simply smile and am glad somebody thought they were good enough to re-post!

Meanwhile, is this car JLA12290? If so I belive it was originally delivered to Emilianauto in Blu Acapulco-Blue. It was owned Stefan Sehring of Frankfurt, Germany, I'm not sure if he still owns it of not. Anyway I think Ive posted the car earlier in the thread Countach Downdraft & Countach Downdraft & Countach Downdraft
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Respect of the originality is one thing, objective.

But you should not judge what is a matter of taste.
You can be both objective & subjective on a public forum, as he said "just my opinion".
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Im very sure its JLA12290. He still owns it, as far as i know. I just live 20mins away from him.
Thank you for that.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:33 PM
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Did stop by the Ferrucio museo today, on my way fromVenice to Portofino. Fantastic place , eveybody sooo friendly. Carmelo. Wich greeted us in the reception was the perfect host. He drives and moves all the cars around. Amongst everything else. Also good friend of Valentino. Got a good detailed look at the DD and Miura. Will post more when back in the US , Wife
And daughter. Ready to hit the town. Again fantastic place and people
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Old 06-18-2017, 04:03 AM
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You can be both objective & subjective on a public forum, as he said "just my opinion".
"horrible" is an opinion. But not objective.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:07 AM
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It's just conversation & for fun. Some like that exhaust, some don't. Myself, I like the sound, but don't like the looks or the price (10k plus?). The pipes are all over the place looking like spaghetti.
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"horrible" is an opinion. But not objective.
So?

It's his opinion that the exhaust sounds horrible, and he is allowed to voice it on a public forum, response to sound is subjective and doesn't necessarily need to be objective, although the latter is always nice.

Let's review:

You introduced a video of a 25th Anniversario (off-topic for this thread FWIW) sporting an aftermarket exhaust that sounds like what can only be described as some kind of boat.

Despite the fact that Ken offered the humble proviso that this was "just my opinion" you responded by scolding Ken with your remark "you should not judge what is a matter of taste."

This is where you erred, and accordingly, I called you out, because Ken can judge the sound of the exhaust system you decided to introduce here for subjective consideration if he wishes, at no point is he under any obligation to be objective.

Now, if you have some Downdraft material (images, illustrations, history, technical information, production information, or related remarks) for this thread so that we may remain on-topic, it'll be very welcome and much-appreciated.

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It's just conversation & for fun. Some like that exhaust, some don't. Myself, I like the sound, but don't like the looks or the price (10k plus?). The pipes are all over the place looking like spaghetti.
Downdraft FLA12804 imaged when it lived in France.
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So?

It's his opinion that the exhaust sounds horrible, and he is allowed to voice it on a public forum, response to sound is subjective and doesn't necessarily need to be objective, although the latter is always nice.

Let's review:

You introduced a video of a 25th Anniversario (off-topic for this thread FWIW) sporting an aftermarket exhaust that sounds like what can only be described as some kind of boat.

Despite the fact that Ken offered the humble proviso that this was "just my opinion" you responded by scolding Ken with your remark "you should not judge what is a matter of taste."

This is where you erred, and accordingly, I called you out, because Ken can judge the sound of the exhaust system you decided to introduce here for subjective consideration if he wishes, at no point is he under any obligation to be objective.

Now, if you have some Downdraft material (images, illustrations, history, technical information, production information, or related remarks) for this thread so that we may remain on-topic, it'll be very welcome and much-appreciated.

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Didn't know you liked to make phrases for nothing.
My posts are clearly both informative & on-topic, that's always the goal.
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That's one of the best automotive images I've seen in a while!

Thanks for sharing it.
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Old 06-18-2017, 04:23 PM
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'87 Downdraft detailed and ready-to-go.
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That's one of the best automotive images I've seen in a while!

Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks, Joe!

I drove the Downdraft and swapped cars half way through the drive and while the 930 is a terrific car, the Downdraft is simply spectacular!

I can tell you that it was difficult to drive the turbo without staring at the rearview mirror. There is nothing like seeing a Countach in motion!
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Was the picture taken by you? If so I'm happy to give credit. That said, I see my copyrighted images posted all over the internet and when I encounter them I simply smile and am glad somebody thought they were good enough to re-post!

Meanwhile, is this car JLA12290? If so I belive it was originally delivered to Emilianauto in Blu Acapulco-Blue. It was owned Stefan Sehring of Frankfurt, Germany, I'm not sure if he still owns it of not. Anyway I think Ive posted the car earlier in the thread
Yes, i took this picture. But i have no problem with it floating around on the web, its just a bad Instagramed picture, the original is much better

About names and chassis numbers, i tend to be more quiet regarding that subject nowdays. I know many collectors are not directly happy about having their names and chassis numbers of their cars all over the web.
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Yes, i took this picture. But i have no problem with it floating around on the web, its just a bad Instagramed picture, the original is much better

About names and chassis numbers, i tend to be more quiet regarding that subject nowdays. I know many collectors are not directly happy about having their names and chassis numbers of their cars all over the web.
Great pic, credit to you! I prefer Flickr simply because its a photographer's site and the original quality of the images can be maintained there - see link below.

As regards names & chassis numbers, I completely understand anyone wanting to keep both private, that is their prerogative to try to do so.

On the other hand, I also feel that any motor vehicle was built for use on public roads and as such is subject to public registration, knowledge or sighting, so, unless the car is never used or serviced and kept permanently sealed in an underground bunker where cellphones are strictly forbidden, they will become public knowledge one way or another. Its just a fact of life these days that your car will likely be in multiple places on the web, and attempting to prevent that is somewhat futile. I also think it is better for the values of the cars when the cars are openly shared, even those of private collections, as the advent of social media and the many registries formed over the past decade & more has shown us.
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