Countach Tires - does anyone care

The P7 are correct for most Countachs so I think you will find them being preferred by most owners. Not to mention the tread looks much better to the eye. I say go for it, I would buy them no doubt.

 

So do I!

 

Well, given that people seem to be very concerned when a sticker is placed at the wrong location on the wheel (12h vs 6h) or the s badge is inverted and create an uproar or the alpine is if the wrong serie (God forbid you have another brand), wearing PZeros may simply be a death sentence on the DD.

Over the decade I have watched the purity trend grow. I think people may now prefer to reproduce even mechanical flow of the times rather than having a car than drives with reliability.
I have P Zeros that is why I only drive at night and I never park under lamp posts.

Honestly, the cars are now barely driven and any new tires will last a long time. Most people buying a fully restored ct at the $500k level will mostly park it for show, hence P7s.
the new P7 even faithful will never be a original p7 because people will rip the car apart due to the wrong date code.

but seriously, some of us will still get the car out of the garage once in a while so we will have no choices.. then the p zero will become worthless for a non 25th Countach if the new p7 sees light.

 

Any plans to start selling Pirelli Scorpion 345/60-17 ?
Pirelli is Abandoning LM owners.
Nice.

 

I do drive my car as much as I can and it wears P Zero, but I would be pleased to put P7 on it since I absolutely love the look of the oversized "P7" script on it.

 

I could go either way. I drive mine (even though it is only occasional) so as long as there are tires available, does not matter to me.

 

Dougal,

We need the P7.

Heck, we are hell-bent on the P7, to be specific, the P7R.

Its the most iconic sports-car tire in living memory!

Most importantly, nothing looks more correct on a 1978 to 1988 Countach than a P7.

Yes I know that the PZero is an upgraded tire, but it wasn't engineered for the 1978 to 1988 Countach. It's too square-shouldered, and that grated outer tread looks very contrived and almost utilitarian.The P7's tread-pattern and overall finish is a thing of beauty by comparison!

We want the P7, and we'll pay up for it!

Its the tire of Champions.
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Just look at that tread pattern!!

I rest my case.
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Caution - a bit of a bulge on the sidewall!

 

I inquired about LM002 tires from my local Canadian Lambo dealer and they can get them for about $5000 CDN per tire!!!! YIKES

 

Lol, you know it!

 

That's not bad! I was told the cost should be $4200 each.......US!

5K CDA = about US3600.

 

The purity trend is simply a function of appreciation for the cars. Detailed interest in the cars and increasing values go hand-in-hand. Not only does it come with the territory of increased values, both are a good thing for every Countach owner.

When values are strong - to the benefit of Countach owners - then, its only natural that enthusiasts, owners and prospective owners will be interested in learning and therefore be more in-tune with what is period correct, and what is not.

When the cars were worth just $75k, nobody cared much as perhaps it wasn't worth investing the time to learn, or the car's weren't considered special enough to many. IMHO that was not-so-great and this has changed for the better.

Of course, anyone understands, that it is the owner's prerogative to keep their car in whatever condition or specification they like, so far as they are happy.

I expect the interest in the details of the cars (the purity trend), to continue to grow. Yet, none of this should stop the owner of any Countach from keeping it in a perfectly reliable state and enjoying it often, and IMHO, the whole point of a restored example is not to just keep it under lights, but to be able to use it reliably.

Back on topic: it is increased values and hence the purity trend, that has made the discussion about P7s viable or even possible, and its a good thing for all concerned. I got in touch with Dougal a while ago to encourage this move, and I'm glad to see he is taking it a step further. Having the manufacturer go back and remake original equipment only serves to further underscore the esteem in which the model is held, so Countach owners should feel good about that, IMHO. Put it more simply, if Pirelli does make the P7, it can only enhance the Countach's overall status. I think a new P7 with the new date codes will be universally well-received.

 

Correct.

They are still selling a set of 5 for about $18k-$20k which is a total ripoff.
Tires for the million dollar cars like a Miura or half mil Countach are cheap in percentage wise of the car's value.

The price for those 2nd gen Scorpions with no sandlips used to be $700-800 each (which is already one of the most expensive tires ever other than the Michelins for Veyron).

 

Correct.

They are still selling a set of 5 for about $18k-$20k which is a total ripoff.
The price for those 2nd gen Scorpions with no sandlips used to be $700-800 eachm (which is already one of the most expensive tires ever besides the Michelins for Veyron).

 

The advent of the P7R in 1985.

That's the one we need.
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Pirelli's legendary "Supertire", the P7R
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Count me in the P7 camp...and please take some pre-orders!

 

The later cars used PZero? Not in Lamborghini or Panteras, I believe.
Also, do not compare the LM002 to the Countach tire production. There are a hell of a lot more Countachs.
Correct, the Countach requires 3 tire sizes. One for rear, 225 and 205 front.

Plus, be fair. You post the question 2 days before Christmas and can not come to a conclusion overnight. This a thread for discussion for a month or few months. That will give you your answer. I do not think it needs to be done in a hurry as many bought tires on this last run. But if we can plan accordingly for the next few years.........
Also, L-Talk is not a highly active as here. Plus there is L-Power to check. Most owners frequent all 3 sites.

 

I also think that some of the restoration shops that specialize in Lamborghini will also stock up on a set or 3. That something that some of the members can check on.

Dougal, lets slow down and keep the discussion going for a while.
I'm sure us guys do not like to be teased when it comes to tires, especially P-7's! LOL
I was a sore topic prior to the last run 2 years ago.

 

lol... Thks for soothing my fears Joe!
I agree with what you say. I was saying this tongue in cheek and I am sure you know that. but sometimes we can get carried away on minute details and forget to appreciate the cars for what they are and at times it can be a bit frustrating to people driving them because restoration includes attempt to remove mechanical flows as long as it does not destroy to car's spirit. Driving a car now worth about $600K to break down on I95 near NY is not an experience to behold.. so for the driver, even only a weekender, who wants to have it both ways, feels like liking pumping iron and training for a record setting marathon. You simply cant do both even if you would love too..