The offer of the day..... - Page 12

**William Abraham** · #**221** 02-24-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. K.

The "Ebay Indy" sold for $19.700.

Has someone been had. Seems a lot of money for rusty parts.....

**staatsof** · #**222** 02-24-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wbaeumer

Maserati : Other Coupe' 2-door in Maserati | eBay Motors

Glad to see that there's been no airbag deployment, whew!

So what "looks like" a nice driver 3.7 isn't drawing at $70K?

**staatsof** · #**223** 02-24-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by William Abraham

Has someone been had. Seems a lot of money for rusty parts.....

No question about that. I would think that if it was registered in NY state then the title would be tagged as flooded?

**MK1044** · #**224** 02-24-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staatsof

Glad to see that there's been no airbag deployment, whew!

So what "looks like" a nice driver 3.7 isn't drawing at $70K?

Also note: "All languages in the machine working properly", which is a very good feature.

**MK1044** · #**225** 02-24-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. K.

The "Ebay Indy" sold for $19.700.

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Abraham

Has someone been had. Seems a lot of money for rusty parts.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by staatsof

No question about that. I would think that if it was registered in NY state then the title would be tagged as flooded?

If that is the car that our F-Chat colleague thinks it is, then there is no doubt in my mind that the seller perpetrated a fraud and the buyer took more of a bath than the car did. This kind of thing aggravates me to no end.

I tried to ask a question about the car, but Ebay would not let me do so for some reason. I then tried to contact Ebay suggesting to them that this sale might be a problem and to protect their own reputation they should ask the seller to honestly state the condition of the car, but got no response and apparently they took no action.

I really hope the buyer realizes what happened and takes some legal action against the seller and against Ebay.

On a side note: even Gullwing Motor Cars give you every opportunity to see and understand what you're getting involved with before you buy. You can examine the car as long as you like, talk with their mechanics about it, put it up on a lift, take photos, etc..

JulianMerak · #**226** 02-24-2013, 07:18 PM

Maserati Ghibli Coupe 1968 matching numbers car Eurospec NO RESERVE Must sell | eBay

**MK1044** · #**227** 02-24-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JulianMerak

Maserati Ghibli Coupe 1968 matching numbers car Eurospec NO RESERVE Must sell | eBay

"... comes with Campagnolo centre lock (spline) wheels".

Hard to tell but they look like the regular four lug mount.

"only 1170 produced and about 500-600 left worldwide"

Does anyone know actually how many cars still remain?

**thecarnut** · #**228** 02-24-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. K.

The "Ebay Indy" sold for $19.700.

That is amazing. I sold that Indy last year for about that same price, before it took a swim in the ocean ... and before it had the bid dent on the right door, and before someone stole the gear shift knob and wheel emblems, and when the car actually started and ran!

I think some people just like project cars ....

Ivan

**MK1044** · #**229** 02-24-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thecarnut

That is amazing. I sold that Indy last year for about that same price, before it took a swim in the ocean ... and before it had the bid dent on the right door, and before someone stole the gear shift knob and wheel emblems, and when the car actually started and ran!

I think some people just like project cars ....

Ivan

Or just did not know the history.

**staatsof** · #**230** 02-24-2013, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecarnut

That is amazing. I sold that Indy last year for about that same price, before it took a swim in the ocean ... and before it had the bid dent on the right door, and before someone stole the gear shift knob and wheel emblems, and when the car actually started and ran!

I think some people just like project cars ....

Ivan

Well ... it's now well seasoned ... with salt.

**William Abraham** · #**231** 02-25-2013, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK1044

If that is the car that our F-Chat colleague thinks it is, then there is no doubt in my mind that the seller perpetrated a fraud and the buyer took more of a bath than the car did. This kind of thing aggravates me to no end.

I tried to ask a question about the car, but Ebay would not let me do so for some reason. I then tried to contact Ebay suggesting to them that this sale might be a problem and to protect their own reputation they should ask the seller to honestly state the condition of the car, but got no response and apparently they took no action.

I really hope the buyer realizes what happened and takes some legal action against the seller and against Ebay.

On a side note: even Gullwing Motor Cars give you every opportunity to see and understand what you're getting involved with before you buy. You can examine the car as long as you like, talk with their mechanics about it, put it up on a lift, take photos, etc..

CAN ANYONE SEND A PM TO THE BUYER THROUGH EBAY OR IS THIS ALL SECRET NOW? HAVING BEEN BURNED WE NEED TO GIVE A HEADS UP

**MK1044** · #**232** 02-25-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by William Abraham

CAN ANYONE SEND A PM TO THE BUYER THROUGH EBAY OR IS THIS ALL SECRET NOW? HAVING BEEN BURNED WE NEED TO GIVE A HEADS UP

I do believe that we are a fraternity and that we should do what we can, (within reasonable limits), to see that some honesty and harmony is maintained in the car collector community so that our passions can be directed to our cars rather than to our lawyers (solicitors).

Probably I've got too much time on my hands, but:
. During the active auction I tried to question the seller but the Ebay system would not allow me to do so.
. I then sent an eMail to Ebay advising them that there might be some problem with the car and that to protect their own business brand they should at least look into it. To this I received no reply and can only deduce that they took no action.
. After the auction, magically, I was able to send the seller a question. I asked him specifically if he made the buyer aware that the care was a flood car. Needless to say he has not answered.
. I don't see a way to contact the buyer.
. I wrote Ebay a second, more detailed eMail. I hope that they will take some action but I don't expect them to do so. I expect that they are more interested in collecting the commission than investigating every claim of fraud or abuse.
. Very late, (and more just for the fun of it), I decided to run my own advertisement on Ebay:
Maserati : Other FLOOD DAMAGE in Maserati | eBay Motors

But I think this experience shows that the newfangled interweb stuff can be manipulated and abused very easily. Personally I prefer the genuine and respected car collector agencies such as Hemmings Motor News.

**staatsof** · #**233** 02-25-2013, 10:47 AM

eDISMAY has change quite a bit over the years.

IMHO it's quite the cesspool these days.

You cannot discern much of anything about who else is bidding, whether it's all just shills or what. You can try and contact the buyer if he gives feedback.

Plus it's littered with so much junk non related to your actual vehicle it's just a pain.

Bxtech · #**234** 02-25-2013, 10:03 PM

Maserati TC $1800. I ran across this on CL. I have no affiliation.

LINK: TC Chrysler by Maserati

Chrysler's TC by Maserati is a "Q" body based on a modified second generation Chrysler K platform jointly developed by Chrysler and Maserati as a grand tourer and introduced at the 1986 Los Angeles Auto Show. After 2 years of development delays, the TC became available in late-1989 and 7,300 units were manufactured in Milan, Italy by the time production ended in 1990.

With a V6 engine,
Power windows
AC
Leather Interior
Hard and Soft Top
Tags up to date
Smog test passed

The car need a little of cosmetic work but nothing mayor

If you are interested please contact me at (510) xxx-xxxx
Or email me. . .

TBigs · #**235** 02-26-2013, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by staatsof

So what "looks like" a nice driver 3.7 isn't drawing at $70K?

I was surprised by this. Looked like a good car to my untrained eye, but then I don't have a good sense for Mistral market values. Anyone see any issues with it? Could be a good excuse for a trip to Napoli for someone!

**staatsof** · #**236** 03-05-2013, 01:40 PM

Maserati : Other 4-Door Sedan in Maserati | eBay Motors

Looks well cared for. He's dreamin' on a buy it now of $10K though.

Nice to see a non ratty example.

Quattroporte3 · #**237** 03-05-2013, 03:24 PM

$10k?!?

You could buy a QP3 for that!

;-) (Maserati humor...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by staatsof

Maserati : Other 4-Door Sedan in Maserati | eBay Motors

Looks well cared for. He's dreamin' on a buy it now of $10K though.

Nice to see a non ratty example.

**staatsof** · #**238** 03-05-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Quattroporte3

$10k?!?

You could buy a QP3 for that!

;-) (Maserati humor...)

Over here QP3's are usually a lot less and in much worse condition. And soon a QPV can be had for that! But not that funny.

Oh he won't get $10K probably not even $8K either.

It's "looks" a nice example though which is impressive with relatively high mileage.

**wbaeumer** · #**239** 03-06-2013, 03:14 PM

Maserati : Other Biturbo E in Maserati | eBay Motors

**MK1044** · #**240** 03-06-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wbaeumer

Maserati : Other Biturbo E in Maserati | eBay Motors

Other than the auto trans that one looks nice.

Unfortunately, it's on stupid Ebay and therefore the honesty and integrity of the owner and the presentation of the car are suspect at least; since Ebay apparently accomodates fraud.