I thought I had a handle on this, but am second guessing myself. All GT have paddle shift. Which model(s) have a clutch vs. the ZF transmission? I see some 2009 S models having buttons and then 2010 models reverting back to the shifter knob. I swear I am not loosing it! Please help.
In 2009 (US cars) there were a limited number of F1 type transmissions. Most were ZF automatics. All autos from 2008 through today are ZF except for those 2009's.
The most reliable say to distinguish between Cambiocorsa/MC-Shift gearboxes and ZF Auto, is by looking at the centre console, if it has a shifter lever/knob then its a ZF Auto, if it has only the buttons (R=reverse, etc) then its a robotic manual (either normal Cambiocorsa or the rarer MC-Shift variant).
After I posted this. Context clues and deductive reasoning led me to such theory and you guys just validated it. Thanks! Wikipedia definitely has an error saying that the 08 is Robotic and 07 was ZF which, if not mistaken, is opposite. Now, I would like to pose something new. Currently, I own an 86 328 and love it to pieces. However, I am young and thinking about the future. Currently, I am 28 and understand the responsibility I have with my current time capsule. The car performs fantastic and is the greatest thing since sliced bread in my opinion. That won't always be the case as the vehicle ages. I am more of the motoring type vs. car enthusiast. Love cars, especially exotics. But driving is my forte. Car shows are fun and I make my appearances, but this was bought for the pure enjoyment of tearing up back country roads. As the car ages and maintenance is required or becomes more regular - not sure if I want that responsibility. Therefore, I am contemplating the future in 3-7 years of the GT S or my Blue with Badges 456 GTA.. Anyone have experience with both to give me a compare and contrast of these two choices???
erm, you are trying to compare a contemporary (~5 year old) Maserati to a old-ish (~20+ year old) Ferrari? I am not sure the comparison is possible. While both cars are GT's, they come from completely different eras. The Ferrari 456 could be compared to the equivalent Maserati 3200GT for example.
GT S would be my pick. It's more modern, no belts and Maserati is increasing its motoring presence will should mean parts will be easier to buy . Your 328 should age well plus your don't drive that many miles per year which could present more issue than driving it a lot. IIRC, GTA is the automatic which I don't think you want
Used to own at 3200 GT.. I've put over 4000 miles on the ferrari since August. I want the automotic. I can handle belts, not trying to put myself in the position of replacing clutches. Otherwise - I'd look at the 550!!!!! GT S does seem great. Excellent point on the motoring presence. I think we can all relate that no matter how similiar those two companies may be - Ferrari is in a league of its own and holds a presence like no other! The Masters "Tradition like No Other" Does this make sense?
Cheaper to change clutch then tranny plus manual is more fun. 550 is the best ticket . I have come to appreciate it that car more and more. I need backseats so 09 GTS F1 ... Damn, so you have been driving the 328 ...WAY TO GO! . I've done 22k in 4 years even though I didnt drive it last summer because I was in NC. what's the farthest you've driven?
456 Tranny is bullet proof! 180 miles in one afternoon. Back Country roads just outside the city up by the cabin and rural areas
Only some of the 2009 GTS had 599 F1 super fast - only way to tell is look at the interior - if no shifter knob it is F1 Image Unavailable, Please Login
For anyone with a really keen eye, you will notice the car above does not have a chrome strip around the windows that all the 2009's had - that's because I had them taken off and had the factory ship me the all black painted ones - didn't like the chrome - also replaced the door handles with carbon fiber
I know u never get the costs back on resale but i have promised my daughter I would never sell this car
Speaking of Promises: No F1 for this kid. ZF all the way.. Hahahaha.. How are you Mr. John? Gonna be in touch this summer about coming up to see you for sure. I hate to think about that fateful day, but the GT S is an impressive vehicle both on performance and looks. I'd rather pay off some real estate and have it generate income vs. a garage full of cars. Trying to balance smart financial decisions with still spoiling myself.
The GTS while super cool, is more of a commitment. Clutch, which last about 30k will be a $10k job, and I have the robotic shifter leaking on mine so its on the watch list and those suckers are expensive. That said, wouldn't trade it for the world, love the car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozj4W6sMSbk
That's precisely why I have my sights set on the ZF transmission! Thank you for the validation. When are we all meeting in Raleigh for a afternoon of Cigars and Beer??? Or I'll buy the beer and cigars if ya'll come to Wilmington so I don't have to drive.. Davidoff anyone???
Don't know what people are doing with their cars that they only get 30k miles on their F1 clutches. I mostly think this is an old wive's tale. It's the same trany as the 599 and one doesn't hear those guys complain about 30k mile clutch changes very often, whereas EVERYONE, whether they own one or not, claim that the Maserati GTS clutches need to be changed at 15k, 20k, 30k miles. Last time it was checked, at 14k miles, I had 15% wear, which projects to a clutch life of 80k miles. We shall see.
The GranTurismo range comes with two types of F1 gearboxes. The Cambiocorsa F1 gearbox and the MC-Shift gearbox. The MC-Shift is the one that is similar to the Ferarri 599 gearbox. Since only very few cars come with the MC-Shift gearbox, you understand that almost all cars have the normal Cambiocorsa F1 gearbox. The owners are not aware of the idiosyncrasies of this gearbox (don't reverse uphill, don't use Auto, don't feather the accelerator on heavy traffic, etc) and thus manage to burn the clutch quite fast. I've seen GT's with 50+ miles and still using their first clutch. So it's up to the driver.
Not sure ..but Piper has a 2013 and his does . I don't believe 2008 - 10 do. I drove the Stradale and it does. It does the throttle blips just like F1 .
I don't believe this to be correct, I doubt very much they used two F1 transmissions for the GTS. While I believe that all GTS's came with the MC Shift (the prior version came with the Cambiocorsa, the 4200GT or Coupe + Spyder), all U.S. GTS F1 cars came with the MC Shift, no exceptions. Only produced for US market in 2009.
