450S #4505

Wow I as well am interested in this sale. Pretty car

 

Walter Baeumer knows all about it,......I'm begging Mr. B. please comment.........

 

Well, you can read what he thinks about #4505 in this TNF thread:

Maserati 450S 4505 - The Nostalgia Forum - The AUTOSPORT Forums

 

This is probably the best thread on 450S and it finally straightens out the history of each car.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/maserati/387302-maserati-exhibition-4.html

 

Probably less than when it didn't sell in 2008 when there was a question of 4505 being restamped as 4506. Now that factory documentation has come out that it did happen. Case Closed.


1957 Maserati Tipo 54 (450S) | Automobiles of Arizona 2008 | RM Sotheby's

 

Timmy: I was responsible for much of the research in the above mentioned thread (Maserati exhibition). I have factory documentation and build sheets for most of the 450S cars. Neither 4505 or 4506 were ever involved in MAJOR crashes. 4506 was the only 450S crashed in the US, and it was repaired within a few weeks.

 

Here is a list of all the 450S'.

#3501 – 450S muletto (Works) – Swedish GP Aug 1956 DNS. Engine removed, chassis sold renumbered 3510 – present owner Genova, IT

#4501 – (Works) Previously unknown chassis completed Fall 1956. Argentina Jan ’57, wrecked May ’57 practice MM – destroyed.

#4502 – Parravano – present owner Switzerland?

#4503 –(Works)- present owner Pacific NW

#4504 – Kimberly – present owner USA

#4505 – (Works)- renumbered as 4506 sold to Edgar

#4506 – (Works) Costin Coupe temp assigned number #4501 for Le Mans June ’57 replacing destroyed chassis (May ’57). Converted for street use Renumber 4512 sold to Staver – present owner USA. #4506 reassigned to #4505 sold to Edgar. Present owner - Germany

#4507 – (Works) Wrecked Caracas Nov ’57 – destroyed

#4508 – Buell – present owner NY

#4509 – Rose – present owner NJ

#4510 – Harrison – present owner CA

#4511 – engine only presently in #4508

#4512 – Costin Coupe renumber from #4506 after temp assigned #4501.

A total of 11 chassis’ carried 450S engines from the factory, not counting Tipo 151, Tipo 65, Eldorado etc.

 

Timmy: Italiancars in Post #12 tells the whole story.

 

So where it fits the 4505 that its coming up to auction?

A reproduction with original parts?

Bests,

N.

 

Nschots: When I inspected the car some years ago, it had what appeared to be an original engine. The original number had been ground off and "4505" stamped on a different area in an incorrect font. Other external engine stamping's were present and appeared to be original.

 

DWR46, thank you very much. So after this, the confusion is bigger! But def., not the Works car, 4506. Seem to be some what i call, "a salad", a little of this, a little of that, but after all, nice to see.

Let´s see how it does at auction.

Thank you,

N.-

 

Not to be a 450S snob or anything. But if you have ever been around a real one, they are much more muscular and curvasous. The body on this car for lack of a better word is more flat.

 

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Just to clarify, the other stampings I was referring to were on the ENGINE, not on the frame.

 

Probably a Marine engine, the question I always wondered is what happened to engine #4508?