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  1. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

    Aug 20, 2004
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    If you are going to be in Scottsdale lets hook up. Add your name to this post.
    You can text me at 206 310 8380
    I will arrive on Tue the 17th and depart on Sunday.
    I predict solid prices, and brisk sales.
    Let's see what happens...
    Ciao,
    FGM
     
  2. dadams73

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    We arrive there Thursday afternoon..
     
  3. dadams73

    dadams73 Formula Junior

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    Frank,
    I guess not too many guys on this forum going. I will be arriving Thursday afternoon and going to RM Sotheby's Thursday night then Gooding Friday am and I to the afternoon. We plan to bounce back and forth to RM, Gooding and Russo -Steele as we are staying at Talking Stick Resort. What are your plans?

    Dean & Jerry..
     
  4. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

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    I arrive tomorrow early afternoon.
    Text or call me so I have your #
    FGM
     
  5. dadams73

    dadams73 Formula Junior

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    will do...
     
  6. pnorell

    pnorell Formula Junior
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    Does anyone have a list of Maseratis for sale at all the auctions in Scottsdale
     
  7. mtbjeff

    mtbjeff Rookie

    Jan 14, 2017
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    You might want to add a phone app called Hammer Price

    It covers most of the big car auctions worldwide and for Scottsdale this week it's covering Barrett-Jackson, Bonhams, Russo and Steel, RM Sothebys , Gooding & Co and Worldwide Auctioneers

    It lists 2 Bora's RM Sothebys lot 129 1975 Bora and Gooding & Co lot 153 74 Bora

    https://hammerpricelive.com/

    -Jeff
     
  8. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

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    #8 Portenos, Jan 19, 2017
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  9. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

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    #9 Portenos, Jan 19, 2017
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    Here is a early Mistral Spyder number 033 with roll up windows and a 3.5 liter.
    Rather tatty and in need of a complete restoration in the hands of a marque specialist.
    Wrong carpets poor panel fit. Who knows what lurks under the skin and what the mechanical condone is. When I see shoddy work such as the fuel lines shown here I just know this car will need a whole lot of sorting.
    Ciao,
    FGM
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  10. Portenos

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    #10 Portenos, Jan 19, 2017
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    4.7 Mexico with 93,612 KLM power steering and wire wheels sells for $130 +10% fees =#143,000
    Fair price for a car that needed a lot of work. When you see a lot of non original and shoddy work you just know that what you don't see will be speedy.
    Wrong leather, wrong carpets, side lights, etc etc
    This car was auctioned at the new Worldwide Auction company which now makes 7 auctions in the week.
    FGM
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  11. lbird

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    The handmade 350 kph speedo is cute..... :)
     
  12. JulianMerak

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    #12 JulianMerak, Jan 20, 2017
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    Hi Frank,

    This car sports a feature that appears in few modern Ghibli restorations that I'm not convinced about. The coining on the upper parts of the wheelarches is joined to the sharp crease in the body side. In my opinion this is not 100% correct and this coining should actually continue around the wheelarch opening fading out below the side feature line as shown below. Any thoughts?

    Julian
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  13. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

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    This car sold for $315,000 + 10% at todays RM Auction.
    Bought very well in my opinion.
    The estimate was set at $450,000 to $550,000.
    The sale price was well under the estimate.
    I owned this car for over 10 years and restored it back in the 1980's.
    Ciao,
    FGM
     
  14. JulianMerak

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    A bit of nervousness in the market perhaps? The Trump factor?
    The UK auction at Goodwood just after Brexit posted poor results and after the world carried on as usual sales have returned to normal it seems

    Julian
     
  15. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

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    Gooding
    49 Maserati Pininfarina coupe Matching numbers high bid no sale $460 +10%
    64 Mistral spyder 3.5 liter roll up windows high bid $470 no sale
    This car needed a lot of work interior leather carpets panel fit repaint etc etc etc.
    The Hard top should be removed and never put on again.
    72 Ghibli SS 4.9 Very nice, Italian restoration Gold black, history
    High bid $310 no sale
    74 Bora high bid $120 +10% Why don’t they like the Boras? Answer Hydrulics…
    But hey, Boxers were struggling to make $235 so a Bora at 50% of a Boxer, not bad…

    Worldwide Auctioneers
    67 Mexico 4.7 PS Wire wheels, tatty, but a real 4.7 PS car which is rare.
    Sold $125+ 10%
    66 Sebring Sires 2 Very nice, still on Injection $240 no sale
    67 Mistral Coupe 4.0 Nice looking car, but who knows about the mechanical condition $135 no sale

    Bonhams
    61 3500GT series 2 with 5sp buckets seats but no wires, tatty, tatty
    When it does not say matching number in the first sentence, most likely it’s not.
    Sold $142 +10% Add another $180,000 and you will have a great car.
    Needed a full restoration

    RM Sotheby’s
    75 Bora Sold $145 +10%
    72 Ghibli SS 4.9 Sold $260 +10%
    66 Maserati Mexico Frua One off the car I owned and restored
    Sold for $315+10% Well bought

    All these cars are shown on a great app called "Hammer Price" Get it on iTunes it's free.
    All and all I had a great time in Scottsdale went to all the auctions had some great meals with pals, and ran into old friends from the Maserati Community and my Concorso Italiano days.
    Made the 4 hour drive from Palm Desert in the Audi A8L, cruised at 80MPH. No Hits, No Runs, No errors, and No tickets :)
    Ciao,
    FGM
     
  16. thecarnut

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    Frank,

    Thank you for the update. Looks like a lot of no sales. Overall what was the mood on the floor? Were people in buying mood or just there to kick tires and have a good time?

    Ivan
     
  17. cnpapa24

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    The Bora at Gooding was very rough. It sold for the right money.
     
  18. Portenos

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    The mood was soggy, as it was raining and cold. Very unlike the normally warm Arizona we all know.
    Seriously It is hard for me to put a finger on the mood.
    The strong dollar i suspect kept the Europeans, Brits and the Canadians home.
    I think generally cars were soft, and the crowd was there to see what was happening. Not many classics and good cars seem to be flat. Good Gullwings struggle to make 1.1 million.
    Daytona coupes a no sale at $600K.
    Ciao,
    FGM
     

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