Coolant level sender / sensor

Peter


Fairly certain Alfa Romeo 33 GCL 1984 onwards used same bits.... low oil dipstick switch, brake fluid reservoir and master cylinder as well as windscreen washer level sensor are shared parts.


Kimbo

 

Good one Kimbo!

I have owned a 33 QV for 12 years, but I have not noticed this one! Not sure what piece has been broken of the sensor, but you could use the top piece only. But I have a dark feeling that the plastic ring has been broken..!?
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Cropping out the part number from the photos I take and post on Ricambi America only makes it harder for everyone.

The sensor on the white background is: 117222 SENDING UNIT : Ricambi America

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Sorry to correct you here. The 3.2 (which Peter has) has a shallow header tank. The one you are showing is from a deep header tank (Eerlier versions)

The correct sensor is this! The same I showed earlier...
118966 Valve : Ricambi America

Peter can you say what has broken. If it is the ring.. perhaps we can have a look to repro it.

 

I never suggested that was the proper part.

My point was that using my photos and then chopping out the part number from the image makes it harder for everyone to keep different items straight.

 

Not sure what you mean, but the photo and part number is untouched and comes from your site. The same number is listed there. Part# 118966.

http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=335952
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number 67 118966 1 (B) Warning device for liquid level
For nourrice no. 129599 call

Or do you refer to the first photo in this post?

 

The very first picture in this thread.


Matches this: 117222 SENDING UNIT : Ricambi America

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ok noted

 

ok Peter! From the looks of it you can still use the ring, although it looks not pretty but still functional. So you would only need to have the Alfa 33 part to fix it. The rubber ring closes the stuff, you might need to get a new one for that. A carshop has all kind of sizes.

Off the record I see that Ricambi might have one in stock still. Not sure what price since it says 0.00 USD and call. That usually means £££££, but I would give them a call anyway if I were you.

In the end, if you have the Alfa part and do not succeed I can try this for you to put it together with your parts. Or a video call first to guide you.

 

Peter,
You are quite right that the Mondial 3.2 lists two basic types of header tanks - an earlier deep one and latter shallow version - and the shallow tank has two variants (A and B). Yours is obviously one of the shallow variants - my '85 Mondial uses the earlier deep tank.
The sensor unit listed is different for the two tanks. The deep tank sensor is part number 117222 and priced at £13.41 +vat while the latter sensor is part number 168966 and priced at £56.48+vat. Both are listed as new to order.
If you cannot obtain the correct sensor for your tank or an equivalent you might consider trying to obtain the earlier sensor (which is considerably cheaper and Ricambi might have one) and modify it to suit your tank. Another last ditch option might be to obtain the earlier deep tank (cheaper that the shallow tank) and fit the correct sensor to that. I suspect the fittings for the deep tank would either still exist on your Mondial or would be reasonably easy to attach.
If it's helpful my tank is out of the car at present and I could send photos and measurements.

 

what a drag Peter! I find it most annoying when online shops have them on their website mentioned as in stock and when you call it turns out to be different. It seems more normal then an exception is my experience.

Let me call some people here in NL on Monday to see what they have lying around. I am actually most surprised that the 328 has no sensor. I also now discovered that some Mondials do not have them. That appears to be the difference between header tank A and B.

I'll pm you in the next days to see what people have here.

 

Hi Peter, if you still draw a blank I'll make you a new sensor based on the old one. The only thing is it will be white, unless you can get me some black Delrin. That said it will be much better than the crappy plastic of the original.

 

I had same problem with my 85 3.0L cab ( different tank to coupe) .
Tank was rusting, ordered new one from Eurospare, assured me the sensor was part of the package - it turned up ,no sensor !
Impossible to try to use old one as it crumbled taking it out.
Waited for them to send new one, was told NLA, searched around for nearly a year with no luck.
Meanwhile, not wanting to have the car off the road for a long time due to minor problem, mechanic simply fitted another header tank from another car ( Volvo plastic bottle !) whilst I looked. Still not replaced so if you solve the problem, will be glad to hear about it !

 

I just cam to the conclusion changing the battery this weekend that the level sensor of the watertank in the front is the same as from the coolant sensor. The unit is the same except for the floater.

Part: 60814800

 

i am still looking for a washer fluid sensor. As for the past 4 years a wine cork fills the hole. That would likely not work for the expansion tank

 

Just checking to see if anyone has found a replacement for this yet?

 

I don't know if my sensor is working or not. After 7,000 miles in eighteen months with an entirely depresurized system [60/40 mix] from time to time I notice a smell of antifreeze expelled from the depressurized over flow. The temperature guage never complains, however i do check the level ever six months or so.

So far so good. Many many 90F days and 2000 ft elevation never added a pint of coolant. And I never drive out without repeated 5,000 rpm shifts. [8,000 rpm shifts scattered the clutch]. So if I am in a hurry I will stop at about 7,000 rpm.]