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Need wisdom on front wheel bearing replacement.

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  1. ronfrohock

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    I need to have my drivers side front wheel bearing replaced.
    I have searched and read all the old threads.
    It seems that there is possibly a SKS bearing that could be used or I could buy the assembly for a cost that is so where between $350.00 and $1000.00.

    Can you please share your thoughts with me on this?

    Thanks
    - Ron
     
  2. MvT

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    Hi Ron,

    I did a lot of reading and searching on this and I came to the conclusion that almost all the possible fits will cost a bunch.. Simple because most know that they fit on at least 5 Ferrari types. Even the common Peugeot ones have a price of at least 250 euro these days (330 USD)

    Just replaced mine not so long ago with a genuine one.
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143221439-post23.html

    Brand:PEUGEOTPart Number(s):95 619 167
    Cross Interchange Parts

    Factory Number
    SK SK16640
    RPK RPK16640
    PEX 16.0075
    RUVILLE 6604
    SKF VKBA 664
    CITROEN 95 619 167

    HTH
    Tijn
     
  3. ronfrohock

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    Thanks for your reply. I did see your video and thought it was very informative.
    I googles the part number and cross part numbers and could not find any parts from vendors.
    Where did you buy your part?
    Thanks
    Ron
     
  4. MvT

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    #4 MvT, Jul 18, 2014
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    I got it from a private person in France who had it up for sale.

    It's these bl**dy search engines using regional search based on your IP address, ebay does not do better either... I do get results :)

    This is not SKF but should fit. I cannot really measure the depth, properly, but It seems the same and also read somewhere that it is the same. I like these better since it has a protective sealing. I will get one myself as well. The listing also has a crossreference list.

    Kit Cuscinetto Ruota Anteriore Autokit 01 303 Citroen CX I Break 2200 D 08 76 | eBay

    Another one here:
    95 619 167,PEUGEOT 95619167 Wheel Bearing Kit

    But it'll be a challence to get it of the wheel hub yourself. Have not tried it myself yet.

    HTH
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  5. ronfrohock

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    Thank you so much for your thoughts and time.
    - Ron
     
  6. fdekeu

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    Hello Ron,

    I have the Citroen version in my Mondi 3.2
    Been in there for 5 years now
    You just have to remove a rubber ring to assemble it
    It is a bearing made by SNR
    It is a bit stronger (level of Co and C values) than the SKF bearing
    These old bearings do not like a car that does not move
    Have to replace my second one as well one of these days
    I can help you find one if you cannot source it in the US
    The same bearing is also sold by superformance in the uk

    I saw a removal on youtube some weeks ago
    Some good thinking should make you come up with an easy way to do it too
     
  7. ronfrohock

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    I don't know that I can source one here in the US.
    Are they readily available where you are?
    I may need to ask you for help.
    Thanks
    - Ron
     
  8. fdekeu

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    The version I used is the SNR TGB 10894 S03
    Google this and you will find a lot of info, also on fchat
    I will try to source one locally
     
  9. MvT

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    Found one for just under 150 euro, 200$
    Let me know if you want me to buy/ship it
    If I order tomorrow it will be here this week
     
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    THANKS!
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  12. Rapalyea

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    My jaw dropped when I first viewed the wheel bearing photo. WOW. That is something I would expect from a Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer. Every American car I have ever owned has a little roller bearing item that costs about $7. I simply replace them whenever I replace a brake rotor which is every time I replace pads. The rotors come with the bearing race installed.

    And as hard as I have driven all my cars over the years not one of these bearings has gone bad. Even my 1965 Corvair has original bearings, though I might or might not have repacked them twenty five years ago. So clearly these Ferrari units are high speed race capable bearings and I am impressed.
     
  13. ronfrohock

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    And the drivers front needs replacement. It's also getting new fuel hoses. The major is due in the fall, the clutch was replaced at 12k miles. And I just bought new tires, due to age....
    Good thing I love this car....
     
  14. bartzagato

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    I think it was something around october last year: I did my daily search on eBay worldwide for the Mondial. Everyday I saw every Mondi for sale on eBay. One morning in october I saw something was wrong: my searchresults were far less then I used to have. I thought I did something wrond in the search set up, but you say my search results were edited???? Sjeezzz, wy would they do that? On a site that lives from the sales, you should expect they benefit from the fact you see more (so buy more...)...
    strange world... A few weeks later, after fiddling a lot with my search setup, I lost interest in eBay, because I knew there was more to find, and all I got were those stupid generic parts everybody gots: batteries, Rainbow HT leads, rest of the crap...

    Bearings aren't like humans: they like to work out. the touching spots (balls vs housing) get marked (sort of electrolyses) + when moisture gets in rust can develop. Also 30+ yr old grease loses all its performance and becomes a sort of clay. To avoid all this, you can change grease by washing out the old grease and adding fresh SKF LGMT2 grease. I redid all the bearings on my Lancia Fulvia since new (good quality) bearings are difficult to find (at reasonable cost). It's as much work as changing the bearings, but less costly. Only problem: you have to do it before they're shot.
     
  15. MvT

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    #15 MvT, Jul 24, 2014
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    It was such a good platform. Just do a query on "ebay search worldwide results not showing" and you will find the more reasons behind all this..

    Part of it is here:
    Getting exposure on international sites

    Is there a way to search all eBay sites for different countries at once
     
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    Bart,
    Thanks for the tip.... I'll ask the shop if they can do this.
    Ron

    Bearings aren't like humans: they like to work out. the touching spots (balls vs housing) get marked (sort of electrolyses) + when moisture gets in rust can develop. Also 30+ yr old grease loses all its performance and becomes a sort of clay. To avoid all this, you can change grease by washing out the old grease and adding fresh SKF LGMT2 grease. I redid all the bearings on my Lancia Fulvia since new (good quality) bearings are difficult to find (at reasonable cost). It's as much work as changing the bearings, but less costly. Only problem: you have to do it before they're shot.[/QUOTE]
     
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    I bought the Bearing from Superformance with the seal.
    Can you offer more information on the removal of the seal for install?
    Thanks
    - Ron




     
  18. MvT

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    Edwardo has a nice picture of how to pull the bearing from the hub. a 3 leg puller would be better. If you haven't got such a puller I would go to the shop to let them remove it and install the new one.
    I guess that is would be around the same price as buying a decent puller if not less.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/141908845-post530.html

    HTH
    Tijn
     
  19. ronfrohock

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    I bought what I beleive to be the Citroen bearing from Superformance. It came with a seal attached. I had read that it is the same bearing bit it has a seal that needs to be removed.
    Can anyone tell me more about removing the seal?
    Thanks
    - Ron
     
  20. MvT

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    Sorry missread your post. The seal has a spring ring. You can pull of the sealing just like that. :)

    You can see the spring sitting in the sealing here:
    http://autopm24.eu/imgbank/tcd/11/748534.jpg
     
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    But if I remove it, won't it leave the bearing Un-sealed and vulnerable to rain and corrosion?
    Thanks
    - Ron
     
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    #22 MvT, Jul 30, 2014
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    It stays protected without seal, Ferrari places them without these seals :) When you follow the steps as in my vid no water can get to it.
     

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