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Mondial T don't start..Help aiuto

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  1. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
    10
    Dear, i have Mondial T 1989my no kat. Here in Italy.
    After one months i tried to start the car for a little round but the car don't run..and from exhaust make bursts...
    phase sensor is ok
    spark ok
    spark cable ok
    fuel pump ok (i hope)
    ignition ok

    idea???

    Thanks..in advance

    In Italiano:
    L'auto non parte più apparentemente senza motivo...
    candele, cavi, accensione ok
    Debimetri da controllare ma almeno partire dovrebbe..

    a qualcuno è già successo??
    durante l'avviamento scoppi e fiamme...come se fosse fuori fase....Boh??
    spero in qualche consiglio
     
  2. davebdave

    davebdave Formula 3
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    #2 davebdave, Aug 11, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2014
    Don't know. In 8 years of ownership ours has always started. The engine is essentially two in one so a no-start is rare.

    Could be the shared idle crank sensor.

    I have also read on this Forum that when the grease dries up in the clutch dampener it will confuse the phase sensor and cause a no-start but I think this is typically when hot.

    Maybe try resetting the computer by disconnecting the battery? Is the battery fully charged?

    Check your fuse box for burned wires.

    Best of luck with it, Dave
     
  3. bartzagato

    bartzagato Formula Junior

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    No car alarm interference?
     
  4. MvT

    MvT F1 Rookie

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    When was the last time you filled her up with fresh petrol/fuel?
     
  5. ricksb

    ricksb F1 Veteran

    Apr 12, 2005
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    That one got me before. I could not figure out what the heck was going on, she just would cut off and not start up again for a day.
     
  6. hank sound

    hank sound F1 Veteran

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    It's as if some of those alarms were designed by car thieves - - the owner can't start the car, but the car can be stolen anyway !!! WTF ??

    Cheers,

    Hank
     
  7. gsfent

    gsfent Formula 3

    Nov 16, 2009
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    I had one of my ignition modules go bad. Car would not start.

    Ferrari doesn't call it "ignition module", but that is what it is. Replaced it and it fired up just fine. Hope it is something simple.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  8. Lino

    Lino Formula Junior

    Jul 7, 2010
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    Not sure but, when engine turns does engine sound ok, is there any strange sound. Your backfiring seems like timing is off?
     
  9. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
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    Battery fully charged...i hope but is ok
    crank sensor?? maybe but is inside...before we are in change the two phase sensor and also fuse box to test....
     
  10. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
    10
    just tested...ok
     
  11. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
    10
    no alarm..
     
  12. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
    10
    not strange sound....the backfire is maybe for phase sensor problem..one just changed but nothing....
     
  13. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
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    1 months, 100octane
     
  14. gsfent

    gsfent Formula 3

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    Well, normally it is either no spark or no fuel (could be both). Both could be low battery, so no spark and no power to run the fuel pump (just an example, you said battery fully charged).

    So suggest you first CONFIRM you are getting fuel at the plugs. If yes, then on to the spark issues.

    Given the quirky electrics, I would be looking for something electrical (like a fried relay or a bad ground).

    Sorry I can't be more help.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  15. MvT

    MvT F1 Rookie

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    ok :) If it was old fuel still then the possibility was there that it had no fire power anymore. happens often with cars that are run 2 to 3 times a year. Old fuel simple does not ignite anymore.

    I'm with Jerry, Not enough to no spark or no fuel. If both then the car ideally should start unless it is off timing..
     
  16. davebdave

    davebdave Formula 3
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    Another thing to check, the ECU computers are grounded on the cam covers. Also check grounding strap underneath engine to frame.

    Have you tried spraying start fluid into the airbox?

    Dave
     
  17. Mask2009

    Mask2009 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2013
    10
    ok. check what you say....so:
    the fuel is ok....also spark plugs....after check i write...thanks
     

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