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Discussion in 'Mondial' started by Rupert, Oct 2, 2015.

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  1. Rupert

    Rupert Rookie

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    Hi all, I'm considering using a mondial V8 engine and box in a another car project...
    I just wondered if someone could possibly take a tape measure to their car and tell me the approximate distance from the point where the drive shaft exits the diff to the front of the engine cam cover please.
     
  2. bbekker

    bbekker Karting

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  3. sidtx

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    With the Thema 8.32.

    I've had thoughts of adapting a 2v engine into something like a modified Lotus 7. There are smaller, much more powerful engines that would fit the 7 chassis, but nothing that has the "cool" factor of a Ferrari V8.

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  4. Rupert

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    Well the engine has been offered to me and it seems a shame not to use it (or just have in my sitting room!) Trouble is it is not accessible to measure.
    I'm just wondering if it could fit in my Renault spider
    Could be highly amusing as long as it isn't too heavy.
     
  5. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    About 500 to 550 lbs with transmission and ancilliaries...
    (or 225 to 250 kilos if you like it metric)

    Rgds
     
  6. PV Dirk

    PV Dirk F1 Veteran

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    #6 PV Dirk, Oct 5, 2015
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    About 27 inches. Approx 69cm. This is from the rear most edge of the flange the axle bolts to to the front of the cam cover. The differential sticks out further though.

    Put it in a VW/Porsche 914. :D A fiat 850!!!!! What other cars had rear mid engine? I bet it would fit in a Fiero, they had V6 engines in the later ones.

    Personally I'd take the cradle and make a fully custom car, your own creation. Although over here I see the Dino kit cars come up from time to time. Put the Mondi engine in a Dino fiberglass replica? Hmmmm.

    Now I see Renault spyder. Not a Caravelle is it?
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  7. sidtx

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    There have been Chevy 350 V8 conversions - so the Ferrari engine should work.

    and, as a bonus, you still have a "sort of" Italian connection as the body was designed by "Ghia".

    914s have limited space, most 914 owners I know refer to the engine bay as the "hellhole". Although, come to think of it, Porsche shoved a flat 6 back there (914/6), so maybe the Ferrari engine might fit.

    As a last resort, think how cook the engine would look under glass. maybe as a coffee table - like the Top Gear guys did with a Porsche V8! You could remove the cylinder heads and hook up an electric motor to rotate the crank and make the pistons go up and down!!!

    sid
     
  8. Rifledriver

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    #8 Rifledriver, Oct 5, 2015
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    Better check the height. From the drain plug to the plenum top it is quite tall.

    Even just to the top of the valve covers it is pretty tall.


    914? Seen them with SBC's but you need to relocate the water pump to squeeze it in there.
     
  9. carwhisperer

    carwhisperer Formula Junior

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    I think it would be pretty cool to put one in a modern Fiat 500. Mid engine style, of course. I like the idea of an exotic engine in a mundane car. Kind of the automotive version of under promise, over deliver. AKA sleeper. Then again with only 200hp, it won't be that fast.
     
  10. carwhisperer

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    Also, remember this. Any engine will fit in any car, if you want it bad enough.
     
  11. sidtx

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    Where a guy put an LS in the back of a Geo Metro.

    Same guy put another LS in a Geo Tracker!

    Another idea, not too exicting, is to drop it into a Miata. There's LS and Ford 5.0 conversions out there - so there must be enough room.

    What would be really cool is to have Red Ferrari Cylinder heads sticking out of whatever you build. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... a Ferrari Boxer engine would be really really cool!


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  12. carwhisperer

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    I've built some pretty crazy stuff myself, including a couple LS swaps. I agree with exposing the red cylinder heads.
     
  13. nerofer

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    It has been done in the old FIAT 500 with a 3,2 engine (at the rear of course), pics are easy to find.

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