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Are T and 3.2 steering wheels interchangeable?

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  1. Mondi88

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    Looking for a bit more chunkier steering wheel than my 3.2 but don't want to drift too far from something authentic. Eurospares seem to have a good stock of T steering wheels.

    I'm sure I've seen a thread on here with a 3.2 owner who bought the car with a T steering wheel already on it but can't find the thread/remember who it was.

    Does anyone know if these are interchangeable without the need for new hub kits? Can they simply be swapped over? Or, can the 3.2 owner with a T wheel please step forward!? :)
     
  2. JimboMondial

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    As a fellow 3.2 owner I can't comment on whether a t steering wheel would fit but it would sound very lightly as momo steering wheels are fitted as standard to Ferrari and have a standard fitting my car came with a ridiculous small oblong race wheel and I swapped if for a bigger momo from a 911 Porsche.
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  3. moysiuan

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    Mine is the 3.2 that came with the T wheel, I put on a Hill Engineering hub extender, and that was designed for the stock 3.2 wheel, so I can say the bolt patterns are identical. Having only had the T wheel I can not comment on whether the larger diameter 3.2 wheel makes for easier low speed maneuvering, as the T wheel was presumably smaller as a result of its power steering.
     
  4. Mondi88

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    Thanks both!

    I'm thinking (hoping) that the chunkier rim will outweigh the smaller diameter and make static turning a little easier.

    I'm not a great fan of pulling anything original off the car (and will safely store the original wheel) but it's just a bit too thin for me.
     
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    The smaller t wheel looks and feels very good, and has the advantage of the extra horn buttons on the 3 and 9 o'clock spokes.

    Also noting that depending on the angle you have the wheel at, the gauges may be obscured by a smaller diameter. And do save your old wheel, they are hard to find in good shape, shared with the early TR's I think. That said the T wheels are priced similarly, if the leather is not scuffed up, albeit there does seem to be more nos t wheels around verses the older style.
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  6. Mondi88

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    Thanks Andy. Yes my 3.2 wheel is in great condition and I will certainly pack it away carefully to refit if I ever did sell (not in my lifetime I hope!).

    I did read about a smaller diameter obscuring dials but although I love the period look, the feel just disappoints and I think I'll bite the bullet and go with the Eurospares offering, an "as new" T version.

    Thanks so much for picking up on the thread, my wildcard "call out" for you worked!
     
  7. Mondi88

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    My beautiful brand new T wheel arrived and was easy to swap over in terms of fitment of the wheel itself, but getting the horn to work wasn't so easy (at least to the un-technical me). It seems depressing the horn doesn't make a connection to the mount on the steering column which completes the circuit. With so little time at the moment, I quickly got despondent and gave up.

    I'm considering taking it to my local shop for them to have a go (based on Andy's car, it can clearly be achieved somehow) but I'm loathed to really spend anymore $ on this.

    If any T or 348 owner out there who wants a brand new replacement wheel, PM me with an offer (I'll look into postage to US). It cost me $600.
     
  8. moysiuan

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    This seems odd. Some have swapped to Nardi wheels with adapters and seem to have no horn issues. I don't recall anything noteworthy when I put on the Hill spacer years ago, just disconnected simple wires to the horn button. I hope you get this sorted.
     
  9. Mondi88

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    Thanks Andy. Yes, the wiring appears very simple. I have a single black wire coming from the steering column which joined a single connector on the 3.2 horn button.

    On the T button, there is an earth connector (and earth wires too). But the issue seems to be making a circuit - if the black wire touches the metal ring on the steering column, the horn sounds. But when I connect up to the T wheel, depressing the button doesn't complete the circuit.

    This is based on me bolting the new T wheel onto the existing 3.2 hub. Maybe I need the T hub in too (but this appears longer than the 3.2 and I don't have the correct tools to swap it out).

    Nothing in my life is ever simple.... :(
     
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    I wish I was close, I'd be happy to make it work for you. I'm sure it's a very simple problem.
     
  11. Mondi88

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    Bless you Claude. I'm sure I'm doing something very daft. Its in for a service in a few weeks, may ask the garage to embarrass me into my shortcomings and take a look.
     
  12. moysiuan

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    Are you using the old 3.2 button on the t wheel? Many momo made wheels have the same 2" button hole size. Perhaps you just use the old button on the new wheel? Sorry if I am stating the obvious, but I think they are both momo wheels.
     
  13. Mondi88

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    Yes, tried that Andy.
    It all seems related to a metal ring that sits between the steering wheel column and the steering wheel which appears to connect the circuit when depressing the horn.

    When placing the T wheel, I think the horn button "doesn't reach" that metal ring. All a bit confusing to describe without some accompanying pictures (and car stored away from home).
     
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    Hi Andy - success! :)
    The garage managed to get it all working (just needed some electrical fettling with a new earth wire). The hub that comes with the 3.4 T wheel will not fit in the 3.2 column. My set up now is the same as yours - 3.4 wheel bolted onto the 3.2 hub.

    Thanks for your help! I love the more sportier feel with the thicker 3.4 wheel.
     
  16. moysiuan

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    That's great! Welcome to the very exclusive t wheel club!
     

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