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Mondials, a seriously good investment

Discussion in 'Mondial' started by kitreid, Aug 20, 2016.

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  1. kitreid

    kitreid Karting

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    You thoughts? Doesn't really bother me to much if it is or not, I just love it.
    I ask because I picked it up this morning from the shop, ( Ferrari specialists ) and had a great discussion with the mechanic about the financial success of the 308 ( in Australia ) and that the Mondial was about to follow. They believe that the Mondial will follow in similar fashion, possibly with bigger success as its a 4 seater.....EG: In Australia, 5 years ago you could find a 308 for $30k.....now 130k
     
  2. MaseratiMike

    MaseratiMike Formula Junior

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    The Mondial QV you could have got here in the UK for around £12k+ GBP 3 years ago, I bought mine this year in May 2016 with service history a 1985 QV Coupe for £24k and 37,000+ miles.

    Have spent around £1000+ so far on bits and pieces such as various rubber seals for doors, ignition components, a few replacement sensors and switches etc... she will need probably another £1000 spending on the body and other small items to make her mint.

    So I would say it's a great investment, as now when I look around on UK adverts the cheapest qvs with much higher mileage, are a minimum of £30k GBP...

    A good classic car can be a great investment, depends on many factors like market conditions + rarity + make + model etc..
     
  3. srephwed

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    I sometimes get a little googlie eyed at 348 and 355 but then remind myself that anything that may go wrong with my mondial can be fixed by me. Not the specialist. Who cares what it is worth. It's a Ferrari
     
  4. mike32

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    I had mine for over 20 years and pt ex it with 25000 miles on it, not that i got much. It all worked and a year later up go the values, mind u the 430 has increased as well. Pity i did not sell the mondial as bits, looking at spares prices these days. The body work was mint so someone got a good buy.
     
  5. kitreid

    kitreid Karting

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    My thoughts exactly, however also great knowing it's rapidly increasing, well here in Aussie anyway
     
  6. paulchua

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    If I sold my Mondial today even at the lower end (say 37K)...it would have meant I got PAID to drive a Ferrari around. So, you can say I agree with your premise wholeheartedly....

    but there in lies the problem, I don't plan to sell my car, and unfortunately the word is getting more and more out. I already see parts getting more expensive.

    :(
     
  7. kitreid

    kitreid Karting

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    Yes they are....I just got a distributer cap ( $260 ) and 4 spark plug extensions ( $240 )
     
  8. dfranzen

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    Mondials were a definite investment for Ferrari!

    The longest running model and basically kept the company afloat with a base/standard selling model for sales.
     
  9. davem

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    Try Superformance for parts, extenders there are much cheaper.
     
  10. MaseratiMike

    MaseratiMike Formula Junior

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    I tend to use eurospares or maranello spares in the UK, for my maserati/ferrari car parts.

    Eurospares for example I just bought 2x pattern distributor caps for my Mondial QV = £60 each including VAT, around $75 USD.

    When I first bought my Mondial QV earlier this year, I bought a pattern camcover gasket set from superformance which was poor quality and the oil seals where smaller than the original. So will use them as a last resort going forward....

    FYI Brake pads are the same as a Ford Escort, bought 2x Ferodo sets from eBay on offer at less than £5 a set...

    So it's worth shopping around, that's if it's not a Ferrari only part.... :)
     
  11. kitreid

    kitreid Karting

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    Thank you , that's awesome
     
  12. kitreid

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    Especially with introducing the QV engine for Mondial and 308....308's have just gone nuts in value......everything points towards Mondials doing the same, especially the 4 seats
     
  13. 166&456

    166&456 Formula 3

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    Yes, interesting isn't it. Has also applied to housing the past decade and a half!

    Indeed. Unfortunately that does not say anything about collectability.
     
  14. paulchua

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    This is a true statement. One should not buy this car with 'investment' as the primary purpose. I would strongly recommend against that.

    Buy it because you want to drive a visceral and raw late 80's GT, that is unique and makes you feel 'connected' to the machines' mechanics.

    find a well sorted one with a reasonable price with this objective, and you will not be disappointed.

    If you buy it because you think it will double/triple/+ in price like the 308 GT4, and you may be disappointed.
     
  15. davem

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    Mike,

    Do these all 4 wheels or...? What Escort too? Great tip!
     
  16. godabitibi

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    He's in UK, make sure you talk about the same Escort.
     
  17. braq

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    Part numbers, please?

    cheers

    braq
     
  18. dfranzen

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    This is really the answer to the post, The Mondial is a driving car investment not an Apple ipo

    In reality what other exotic car can you buy less than $40K - $50K and drive it and sell it for basically what you paid for put into it

    Enjoy!
     
  19. MaseratiMike

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    The ferodo brake pad parts I bought are the same for both the front and rear of my 1985 Mondial QV Euro Coupe model, not sure about other models and variants:-

    Ferodo FDB206 Brake Pad Set, disc brake - (set of 4).

    OEM part number references:- FORD:5023994, FORD:5704268, FORD:6130483, FORD:6166952, TALBOT:VBP231, TVR:178479

    (They cost me £4.06 per set of 4 from Amazon - I must have got a special offer as I now check and they are going for 10x the price. Ebay has plenty of various makes of pads, you will need 2x sets for both front and rear.)

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    Looks like our cars share the same brake pads as several Ford, TVR and Mazda etc. Cars. A good cross reference list can be found here:

    TVR 178479 Brake Pad Set, disc brake


    Enjoy
    Cheers
    Mike
     
  20. braq

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    Thanks a lot, so to clarify, easy to get if you are in Europe, some shipping to be considered for delivery in other parts of the world.

    Are you sure they are the same for front and rear, as some of the merchants (on ebay.de for example) only mention fitting for the rear brake?

    Cheers

    braq
     
  21. paulchua

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    Thanks. I often find myself looking at other Ferrari that I can now afford, but always find myself going back to the Mondial as the only viable car *for me.*

    The models within striking distance for me now is the 308/328/348/355/360/400

    308/328/348 - 2 seaters (can't take my 2 kids along for the ride), not as forgiving in the handling (this saved my butt a few times on the twisties)

    Pros? - I would argue only subjective legacy/beauty of 308/328 Many people dog the 348 (I have no clue why, it's a beauty) - less finicky electronics on the 308/328.

    -In the end - does not make me pull the trigger.

    360
    Pros - better performance
    Cons - less 'raw', 360 (drive by wire, and VS) - already another step away from pure analog - no thank you. I also am not the biggest fan of the 360 styling (this is just my opinion)

    400
    Pros- Awesome v-12, ticks most of my boxes...but hard to find a manual and no-drop top - That's a must for me....so no go.

    Which leave the 355 as the most viable contender.
    I think the most beautiful Ferrari, ticks all boxes - except one - only 2 seats.

    In the end - I find myself sincerely only finding 1 car that meets all my needs. The fact that it *was* reasonably price was like winning a contest.

    Thanks for the naysayers is I can say!!!

    :)
     
  22. MaseratiMike

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    #22 MaseratiMike, Aug 24, 2016
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    No problem, well on my car they are definitely the same front and rear. (PICTURE ATTACHED)

    However you may have to confirm about your car, as there may be different shapes/sizes between the years/models....

    Thanks
    Mike
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  23. braq

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    Thank you,
    at that price I'll give it a shot,

    cheers

    braq
     
  24. davemqv

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    Hi Paul,

    Just curious to know if you've ever considered a 456? A gated car can be had for around 100k, maybe less, which I thin is in your price range?

    Not trying to sway you. I started out shopping for a 456 automatic and ended up deciding on a Mondial coupe for all the reasons we usually discuss, but the 456 is another sleeper Ferrari in my opinion. Not as impressive or original in terms of design, but it does have some nice steals from the Daytona and Fiat 2400 Dino coupe blended in. Just my 2c.

    Hope you're doing well!
     
  25. Rosey

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    Not convinced of the Mondial as an investment. Sure they will go up in value (just like many old cars will increase marginally in value over time) but as an investment... not sure.
    The shape has always been a bug-bear with a lot of people, me included.
     

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