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  1. URAS

    URAS Formula Junior

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    #1 URAS, May 23, 2015
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    I have a 1982 BMW R100RT. I purchased it about 2002 sight unseen as I love these older touring type of bikes. There was a 3 year restoration and in about 2005, after the restoration, it was put away and stored inside my dining room. It made a great conversation piece on family functions. About every six months, I would hook up the charger and turn the engine for about 30 seconds, without starting it.

    Well, now I want to use it this year, especially with the great weather approaching. It is now rolled out into my garage. I changed the oil. I put gas in. But it will not start. I think it is because the carbs are empty. Sometimes it feels like it wants to start. Before I call the local BMW dealership to pick it up and get it started, do you think I should use some starter fluid just to help it fire up? Maybe this will be enough just to get it going until things limber up and the juice is flowing. I know I need a new battery as I have to use the charger to crank it over.
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  2. Ducman491

    Ducman491 Formula 3

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    #2 Ducman491, May 24, 2015
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    That's a beautiful bike. Can you turn the motor over by hand? If it doesn't turn then spray some cutting oil in the cylinder and let it soak for 24 hours. Then try again. The upside is you kept it in the house so mice shouldn't be a problem and the wiring should be good. Change all the fluids and take it very slow and if anything sounds or smells funny stop investigate and start again.

    I wouldn't use starting fluid until you are absolutely sure the motor moves. Bad things happen when you try to move things that don't wanna.
     
  3. URAS

    URAS Formula Junior

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    Engine turns freely, both manually and battery assist. All fluids changed including brake fluid. I did not grease the splines as not driven in 10 years and done prior to storage.....and they are a pita to do.
     
  4. kiesan

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    I didn't see that you replaced the spark plugs. Those are stupid simple to change. If in fact you suspect no fuel at the carbs, unclip the float bowls and investigate. You don't even need tools. Dump out whatever old fuel might be in there and let fresh fuel in. The fuel system is very simple on this bike. If there is fuel in the tank and at least one of the petcocks is open the carbs will get fuel.

    If still no start, almost for certain it just needs to have the carburetors taken apart and cleaned. A cake walk for any 1/2 decent airhead tech. You could probably watch a youtube video and be an expert in 15 minutes lol.

    Be ready for the possibility of a rear main engine seal leak developing after you ride it around a while. Although I see now it was restored just 10 years ago. If that means all new engine seals and you in fact turned the engine over every 6 mos it will probably be fine.
     
  5. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Clean the carbs as suggested and laugh if you will, spray some starter fluid in before you crank it.

    Own a '67 Honda CL/77 - been in my family since '67 (pops was the 2nd owner). It's done 3 stints of sitting for MANY years (including recently). Every time, I simply clean out the gas tank, replace the oil, clean the carbs, spray some ether - VOILA! It starts!

    It's due a proper resto, but $$ and laziness have seen that it sits. I want it done before anything happens to my old man, so I'm getting the itch to do it soon.

    Good luck!
     
  6. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I would suspect fuel pump and/or the lines themselves, after sitting so long.

    I had trouble with a "new" 2006 Ducati I bought from a warehouse, less than 100 miles driven.
    The inline pump was jammed, and all the lines were bad.

    Ironically I think the new line was from BMW!
    Good luck.....
     
  7. NORTY

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    Put it back in the diningroom!
     
  8. jlonmark

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    such restraint! That's like me living with a porn star and not being able to.... well, you get the idea
     
  9. tundraphile

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    Definitely have the carbs cleaned and probably rebuilt. Fuel lines and filter as well.

    Check the condition not just of the brake fluid, but also the reservior and the calipers themselves. Brake fluid can turn to a jelly-like substance and prevent fluid returning to the reservior or clog up calipers.

    Finally, don't assume electrical parts are good just because they haven't been used. Things like coils and rectifiers can go bad over time just sitting as well.

    If you have spark, air, and fuel, no reason to think it won't light.
     
  10. Statler

    Statler F1 World Champ

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    Slightly different thought than above: if you haven't been riding regularly since then ; perhaps a refresher course? Riders need maintenance too.

    Have fun. :)
    Nice bike.
     
  11. BMWairhead

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    Did you ever get it started?
     
  12. URAS

    URAS Formula Junior

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    In the end yes. Actually was simple. Needed a new battery which turned it over better. Squirted starter fluid, started right up, sputtered after a few seconds with choke adjustment. Squirted more starter fluid while it was sputtering and it it did not bog down. After about 30 seconds idle started to smooth out. I had forgotten how sensitive the choke lever is - minor minor adjustments only opening up until warm. Did 200 miles last summer.
    This spring just starting to think that I would like to replace the gear shift pedal to the front/back rocker type - hate ruining riding shoes on the top. Anyone do this change before?
     
  13. kiesan

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  14. URAS

    URAS Formula Junior

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    Amazing Kie. I was actually going to drop into BMW today to see if they had a set up. You have managed to make me appear smart in my discussion with the parts desk. And not to worry I will retain th current lever for easy swap back if ever needed in future. But man I love this bike - even my friends with their Harley's keep on asking for first dibs even I ever decide to unload - which will not happen. I promised the elderly gentleman who was the original owner that I would not sell until I reached the same condition as him - can't ride anymore, and a promise is a promise!
     
  15. BMWairhead

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    Let me know if you're interested in used...I probably have one of the heel/toe shift levers.
     
  16. Wade

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    Ain't that the truth e.g. too much front brake on cold tires.
     
  17. URAS

    URAS Formula Junior

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    Thanks for the suggestion Chris. As it turns out, I still ride often as have another bike (88 Bmw tourer) and my good weather daily driver is a 49.9cc scooter. I do about 5,000km per year on those two. The r100rt was a bonus as I like the more classic looks. Safety is always first rule. I never go out without proper riding gear and I no longer go out in bad weather - just gotten too old for that. After many times eating bugs and getting them in my eyes (hate wearing sunglasses) I now wear full face helmet. 2 years ago took an advanced refresher course at hummer college. I now ride for fun only. Again thanks for the comments - something for everyone to work towards to ride safely for a long time.
     

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