Is there a C&C (NNJ) meet this Saturday 3/11/16?

It would be great if there was a schedule for the upcoming dates.

 

It was to be 3/12...the last one was a mess...you should check out the one in Red Bank on Saturday...just take it easy on the GSP!

 

I could not make it last week what was the issue that caused the problem

 

Everything cancelled because of bad behavior

 

Interesting, what kind of bad behavior? I've never been to one but I noticed the event's FB settings were changed this week.

 

There was a 200+ comment thread on the Facebook page arguing about the lack of parking. There was a dealer Ford GT which decided to show off and do a burnout leaving. And I did not personally see this but apparently a car lost control and went off the road.

 

Emails that were sent by the promotors mentioned the bad behavior including what was mentioned above. Most of this stems from the 18 year olds driving supped up Hondas and Acura's....we that drive nice cars don't have the egos or the need to prove they are fast. Stupid.

 

Always seems to be the case. Shame. I guess C&C events need to be more private and constantly moving to avoid supped up daily drivers. In my opinion birds of a feather should flock together so the supped up ego crowd should go and do their own private events. This is the kind of thing that caused the Town of New Canaan to give Caffeine and Carburetors (as far as I'm concerned the best C&C around) such a hard time with permits, etc. A few bad apples spoil the bunch.

 

Absolutely, and when you tell them that, they freak out. C&C is not about one-upping the next guy. Heck, one of the attendees from the last Cars and Croissants owns a McLaren P1 among others, but he brought his Cayman GT4 that morning because he didn't care about how much attention he drew to himself, he just wanted a nice drive and to chat with enthusiasts.

It's a shame what happens when the wrong crowd ruins the fun, and I have no hesitancy to make such stereotypes.

 

Tony - we appreciate your efforts in putting together these events. Thanks! I know it takes a lot of your time in finding a place for us. You are a true gentleman!! Unfortunately, there are some bad apples that ruin it for us!

 

Remember When.....

We met at the Chatham Mall on Shunpike and what great gatherings we had "way back then" when like-minded enthusiasts such as......

Steve with his Corvette,
Andrew with his 360,
Tax Doctor with his Ferraris,
Bruce with his 190 SL,
Me with my 575M,

and with so many other great cars, acquaintances and friends taking the time to spend the morning and share stories and common interests?

We had great times then....too bad we outgrew those great times.

Walter

 

Cars & Caffe in Bergen County.

I'm just offering my 2 cents, since I understand Kirk and Abi's situation a bit.

 

What a shame this has happened. I only went to one or two times last year and now there are no more AFAIK ...

I'm not sure there's much you can do about this because once the a-holes find out about an event, location and time it's not possible to keep them away.

I don't like the idea of being snobbish but if newer cars were excluded perhaps that would be one way to prevent all the ricers etc. It means the loss of newer exotics as well. That wouldn't kill me. I see them on the road anyway.

But you'd still need an enforcer/bouncer and those refused would get pissed. So there's another opportunity for things to go wrong. Also, announcements would have to be more circumspect.

Back to registered car shows with entrance fees and an overnight stay somewhere more remote?

 

I've been to several of their C&C's and have always seen nothing but model behavior. I don't know what happened in this incident, but it seems like future issues could be prevented by having a cop/cop car present at every gathering. I doubt anybody is going to do any high speed driving when a cop is right there.

I don't know what it takes to have a cop car stay at every event, but the gatherings are large enough to warrant it and, with 1700 people on the mailing list, it seems like there should be somebody who knows somebody who could make that happen.

 

You would have to pay the officer OT for 3+ hours. If you guess $75 per hour and roughly 15 meets per year, you are now investing over $3000 in what was supposed to be fun and informal. I am looking into the matter though... at least for my events.

 

Hi Walter,

I also had a good time at the initial Chatham meets.
The ones after - too much, too big. Would enjoy returning back to the initial stage.