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  1. 19633500GT

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    #1 19633500GT, Oct 22, 2014
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    Hi guys, my friend George is selling his Ghia. I have a lot of pictures linked to DropBox if you'd like to follow the link to view.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5n91ikytpyrbv5t/AADsM8chZn3RPar8xHPWBq8_a?dl=0

    *pictures taken October 9th, 2014*


    Here is the information (plan on posting to eBay later, more of a last resort, I dislike eBay).


    The 1967 Ghia 1500GT is located in Valley Grande, AL, just outside of Selma, AL. George has owned it for a long time, but a Rolls project and other things have taken him away from finishing the car. Here are the details:

    Body/Exterior/Interior/Issues

    George believes he has a title in his safe deposit box, however, if not, Alabama is a non-title state for vehicles older than 20 years old. At the very least he has an Arizona registration from 1989 when he lived there. The car per his registration sits as a 1967.

    Car Tag # 116.382718 (he said put a ?? because he's not 100%, but fairly certain that's the correct # for the car, when the body was first restored the number was cut unfortunately). Body read's # 3783

    The car has not been wrecked ever, the only work has been rear right tap that was repaired before any of the paint or bodywork was done as you see it now (it is a monocoque car though? so no frame?) Car is straight.

    It has an Alfa 5spd gearbox, which is NOT adapted to the rear end. He has the proper drive shaft, but it does need to be trimmed to the correct size.

    The present engine and gearbox combo have NOT been driven together as it sits right now (the orig. engine was Fiat Abarth)

    The front-end needs a proper rack/pinion utilized, currently to fit in front of the radiator, or possibly a new steering cross member would solve the steering engineering aspect. It has a big oil pan (race style) that sits low.

    Correction on the wheels, they are 13" Dayton's, NOT Borrani's, and the existing center caps do NOT fit the wheels.

    George has all Veglia NOS instrument gauges for the cluster, but a dash face gauge board will need to be fabricated.

    The present Carbs have been re-jetted, and the engine was built, pushing approx. 140+ hp, she is running Auto Delta Cams too (see spec pictures attached)

    There is NO rust underneath, maybe some surface/underspray, but the floors are great, rockers great, fenders/inner walls are fine.



    Engine

    Please see the attached spec sheet. 1977 Alfa 2.0 block.


    *please note too, on the engine, all the bits are there.

    Extra's

    There is a dual Ansa exhaust, carburetors, gauges, and finishing pieces, all stacked on the storage shelf, they all go with the car. As you'll see by the pictures, he had started the wiring and assemblies.

    The key parts are the paint is quite nice, there is one blemish on the left where the side-view mirror would go anyway. With a buff, the paint will look even more fantastic, the car was not cleaned for the photos, I wanted to represent it for him exactly as it sits. Please feel to give me a buzz if you have questions, 203-770-0839 is my cell.

    The price is up for discussion, but based on rusty forlorn projects selling north of $10K,we think $17,000-$20,000 is realistic.

    Thanks
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    A lovely and rare car, conceivably worth a lot of money with the original Fiat 1500 drivetrain, but this one has been seriously messed with. Good luck.
     
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    It's fun to see one of these again. I bought one new in Paris, and drove it for about 4-6 months before my "training wife" totaled it. Car was replaced by a Giulia Sprint GT, and wife by a beautiful Czech model, (a keeper).

    This one is sitting way too high, and the Alfa grill is ludicrous. I believe they built about 400, so you won't see them every day.
     
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    To get his garage space back pricing...George would like to see it go.

    $11,000.00 if there's any interest.
     
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    More Information* Q and A


    Dash-

    he had originally wanted to install a burl wood dash, with bigger gauges. The original dash/faceplate in the car when it was Red, had holes in the top of it, he tried to cut out bigger holes for the gauges he wanted, but had cut them too big, so moved on to the wooden dash/face design. It is not two separate pieces apparently, but one dash top connected to the gauge face, and is long gone.

    This would mean the included gauges, though correct Veglia "vintage", are in fact smaller than what originally would've come on the car.

    Included Parts- Not Specified in eBay ad

    Steering wheel shroud
    (3) Turn Signal Stalks
    Ignition (no guarantee he has this key though)
    A COMPLETE ashtray
    Glove Box Lid (new)
    (5) little dash lights, and a rocker switch

    Windshield front trim. It is aluminum. It is one piece and hanging in his garage. The "T" aspect he had explained was what the trim looks like, the "T" being how it fits into the rubber windshield gasket. This is a VERY hard part to find if lost.


    Where are the face plate and wheels?

    The face plate was taken out when he had the car completely apart for paint, unfortunately it got tossed. And the wheels he took off and sold them to an Italian car parts shop after he found and put the Daytons on (sometime in the 90's).


    Below is all of the info from the eBay ad, consolidated so you don't have to find the unsold ad.


    1) I'm not clear on the status of the VIN tag.

    The VIN tag is on the left side of the inner fender wall in the engine bay (if you can zoom in on the photo you can see it).
    It reads:
    GHIA GT1500
    CHASSIS# 382718 1,200 KILOGRAMS (weight)


    2) Has George figured out whether he has the title?

    George holds a clean and clear title in his name, with correct # matching VIN to the chassis tag on the car.

    3) Please explain the situation with the wheels. You have the correct center caps but they are for a different type of wheel?

    The Original wheels that came on this Ghia were Cromodora's. He has the center caps for those wheels along with some Alfa center caps (from a Spyder). The current wheels are the Dayton wires that you see on it, and he does NOT have center caps for these wheels.

    4) Do the extra parts include headers for that engine?

    Glad you asked and I can clarify this. He does NOT have the exhaust system for the Ghia, the headers, or radiator. Since a radiator will have to be accounted for when figuring out the front suspension, he never got around too it. I'm not sure what type of headers your mech. quoted you, but this is just a basic Alfa 2.0 block, headers are not hard to find, nor very expensive, and exhaust wise, I would recommend a custom bent pipe, to the Ansa tips.

    5) Is all the glass good?

    The front windshield is glass-plastic-glass layered, there is one small spot of condensation (I'm not sure it showed in photos) between the glass. The rear shield is not glass, but like high tensile airplane plastic (material). And that is in fine shape.

    6) Is that the correct insert for the front grill? If not, are the correct parts included?

    There was no "grill" originally on Ghia 1500's (it was open). He added the Alfa piece as his own part, you can remove it if you'd like.

    7) Is that the correct steering wheel?

    It is the correct steering wheel, with correct emblem.

    8) Are all exterior and interior trim bits included such as all emblems, mirrors, license plate holder, etc.?

    Extra's and notables. There is no "nose" badge, though a script "Ghia" approx. 3" long is included. It will come with 2-3 different types of "GT" style bullet side view mirrors, rear view mirror, emblems, there is a chrome "square" style license plate holder (Maserati). A big box of bits and pieces if you will :)

    Also,
    new KYB shocks,
    MILSPEC wiring harness (very high grade),
    Mallory Fuel Pump/Regulator Series 140,
    New Fuse Box (Italian, used in Ferrari's of the era),
    Carb adapters are included for the Del's,
    Magnetti Marelli Distributor w/ wiring,
    Electric Radiator Fan, the brake boosters were re-done before he put it away, and yes, it has 4 wheel disc brakes.

    *And note, the spare wheel is a cast wheel, not a matching wire.
     
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    Pending Payment, the Ghia has SOLD. Thanks
     

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