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1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S "Silver Rose"

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  1. gbutler

    gbutler Formula Junior

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    Glenn Butler
    #1 gbutler, Dec 6, 2016
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    SN WPOAA2957JN151398 is one of 339 US spec “Silver Rose” cars, which were the first 944 Turbo S cars imported by Porsche in 1988. All of these cars had the LM3Z paint code and a special burgundy with pink plaid cloth interior. Option code 758 also indicated the Turbo S option package. These cars were the street version of the 944 Turbo Cup race car and included a more powerful engine (M44/52 with 247 bhp), sport suspension with adjustable KONI shocks and larger 928 S4 brakes, and the “AOR” transmission which includes a limited slip differential and a transmission oil cooler.
    This is an incredibly original car with ZERO modifications and known history since new. With exception of the missing original window sticker, the car is as delivered new and includes all of the following items;
    • Two “pewter crest” keys, one valet key, and three wheel lug nut keys
    • Spare tire, jack, and tire compressor
    • Original tool kit with plastic gloves
    • White KONI adjustable shock wrench
    • Sunroof storage bag
    • All original books and pouch; including all radio manuals (with codes & SN’s), the original warranty booklet indicating delivery date, first owner, option codes, and dealer service stamps, and the original owners manual with the Turbo S supplement
    The car has a clean CARFAX with all VIN tags present on all appropriate panels. The only evidence of paint work is on the front nose, where three small dents on the panel between the headlight covers were repaired. I have pictures and receipts from this work done back in 1993. There is no evidence of rustanywhere on the car, but there are some scratches on the hood and roof that are noticeable under the right lighting conditions. These scratches are not deep and appear to be something that could occur when running the car through an automatic car wash.
    A notebook full of receipts going back to 1991 provides a maintenance history and supporting evidence of the mileage as well as indicating that I am the fourth owner. Most recently, the following repair / maintenance items have been completed;
    • 10/15/16 58,616 miles Four new Toyo Proxes tires
    • 10/02/16 58,612 miles New OEM exhaust
    • 10/01/16 58,600 miles New brake rotors, pads, & sensors on all 4 corners
    • 06/08/12 50,875 miles New timing & balance shaft belts, distributor cap, rotor & plugs
    As a 25 year plus PCA member with over 250k miles driven in 944’s, I am very familiar with the maintenance needs and problem areas with these cars. I would feel confident driving this car across the country tomorrow. There is no clutch slippage or “shuddering” when taking off, no roughness upon startup which would indicate potential motor mount issues, or uneven “hunting” at idle. There are no cracks in the dash, no curbed wheels, no broken cassette holder or glovebox door hinges, and no stripped sunroof gears. The original plaid cloth interior is perfect with the exception of a two inch tear on the driver’s seat bolster. Should someone wish to repair this, new material is still available from 924werks in Germany. A couple of months ago I sold my 1989 944 Turbo with 38k miles and this car is in better condition!

    Additional pictures can be seen at 1988 944 Turbo S - Album on Imgur

    Should anyone have further questions, feel free to give me a call at 704-962-9683
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  2. ag997s

    ag997s Formula 3
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    love these!!

    how much?
     
  3. gbutler

    gbutler Formula Junior

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    Oops! Forgot a critical detail. I am asking 34.9k obo. I am also open to considering any interesting Ferrari trades, plus or minus cash
     
  4. nathandarby67

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    Hands down best seats ever.
     
  5. bart12

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    Do you have any pic of the rip on the bolster? I maybe interested.
     
  6. malex

    malex Formula 3
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    Go to the link he posted for the album. All the pics you want, including bolster tear, are there. You can also go to the Web site for the German co, 924werks, that sells the repro cloth so that the seat can reupholstered.

    To the seller . . . very nice car. Just outside my price point. Glws!
     
  7. henryr

    henryr Two Time F1 World Champ
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    more pics of that garage
     
  8. 4re308

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    OHHH man this is one of my all time favorite cars!! If anyone has never driven or lived with one, they are superb driving cars. Excellent handling and they are FAST!
     
  9. mid-fun

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    Just gorgeous - can't get enough of that German plaid (from a lover of front engine Porsches).
     
  10. cnpapa24

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    Interior is called "studio check" and it is fantastic. Great car. Good luck with sale.
     
  11. bigsquat

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    Just "WOW" on that interior. Amazing! GLWS.
     
  12. 4re308

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    I can tell you all that Glenn is a first class guy and a nice fellow. I have a 1986 944 Turbo in my collection and they are just killer cars to drive.
     
  13. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
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    Wow, absolutely lovely car! GLWS!

    Ruben
     
  14. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Killer seats!
     
  15. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    These are great, I recall my favorite uncle buying a pair for he and his (then ) wife.

    His was the Turbo.

    GLWS!

    That's a really cool example.....
     
  16. gbutler

    gbutler Formula Junior

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    #16 gbutler, Dec 10, 2016
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  17. FiveLiterEater96

    FiveLiterEater96 Formula 3

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    What a cool collection! GLWS!
     
  18. INTMD8

    INTMD8 F1 Veteran
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    They are very cool!! What a nice car.
     
  19. Scott98

    Scott98 F1 Rookie
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    I used to own a white/tan '88 turbo s. They were fantastic cars and are finally being appreciated. Good luck with your sale!

    Scott
     
  20. slownrusty

    slownrusty Formula Junior

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    Amazing!!
    I tried to bid on several "S" cars recently listed online and lost out on each one, out of frustration I just bought a nice '87 with a few wants and needs (don't they all require this..laughing).

    This Rose is about as exceptional as they come. Good luck with the sale. Love the BB too! One of my all time fav. prancing horses.
     
  21. BladeMD

    BladeMD Formula 3
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    Gorgeous car! The 944 was the Porsche of my dreams as a kid. If I had a 5th garage bay, id put this in it. GLWS!
     
  22. drbruno

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    I love your Turbo S!!!! PM sent.
     
  23. gbutler

    gbutler Formula Junior

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    Funny you should post asking someone to tell me what the market is --- then you go ahead and state that you don't know and doubt it has doubled! You should back up your statements with evidence. I can! Car sold about a month ago and I can state you are wrong about the market not doubling! FYI, I also sold a 1989 944 Turbo with 38k miles about 6 months before this car sold -- and it sold for north of 30 as well.
     
  24. cnpapa24

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    They are great period performance and value for the money.
     
  25. Mckinney

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    These are great cars, superbly balanced. I don't know of any car ever that offered a better balance of handling, looks, build quality, fuel economy, and performance. Good to see them getting the respect they reserve, but I wouldn't mind a little less respect while I look for one to replace the 1986 951 i bought new back in the day!
     

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