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  1. TheMayor

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  2. S Brake

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    Looks awesome.
     
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    Heard rumors Maserati was considering a version with a V6. Wonder if there is any way?

    I like the Spider better than the coupe in the Alfa, just the opposite of the 246, where I prefer the coupe, probably because I had one.
     
  5. TheMayor

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    Not going to happen.
     
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    From this small pic I don't like it much and prefer the coupe...but let's see it in person next week :)

    Rumors are:

    The lights are photoshopped or just a concept and the real one will have the same lights as the coupe

    Central exhaust by Akrapovic

    Removable roof panel in carbonfibre

    Engine cover (optional) in carbonfibre

    All the other things you can see are already options on the current coupe it seems including bi-colour seats and steering wheel.
     
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    I hold out hope that even if Alfa does not correct the headlights on the initial production version, that they will eventually do a more traditional glassed-in design like pictured on the spider that could be retroactively swapped into the coupe. Or possibly that there is enough demand that an aftermarket supplier creates a conversion kit.

    I like the two tone interior!
     
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    I cannot believe they would photoshop the lights. Everyone has said it's the car's worst design element. It would be just admitting it.

    Either you do something or you do nothing.

    Then again, we are talking about Alfa here.....

    I also like the 2 tone interior. Looks much better.
     
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    To be honest I like the current lights with the carbon surround....

    All I reported are rumors but we should know everything tomorrow.
     
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    Funny but I've gotten used to them also.

    But I think most people would look at them and go "what?" Of all the external parts of the car, the two areas most often mentioned in what is a very well viewed car are the headlights and the rear view mirrors.
     
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    This looks alot better than I thought it would. The two tone colors look great. The new headlamps are also very nice but I think the old ones were kind of cool.
     
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    I've seen womehere they decided to put the similar lights to the Concept Car into the production model because of the general outcry about the current production car's -er- interesting looking - lights. Thanks to the sales success of the car they can afford it now... The pic of the spider just confirmed that... I wish they'd replace the stupid steering wheel: rim way too think and stupid flat bottom!!
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    I stand cottected.

    Looks like the car will have projector headlights à la 8C. She will also have new wheels and what looks like to be a central dual-pipe exhaust, or quad side exhausts?? See some blown up pics....
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    close-up on targa opening
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    If the lights end up looking like that, I will have a hard time resisting. Assuming it ever actually goes on sale here. ;)

    I can't wait to see more pics of the targa version. I think I will have a hard time choosing which version I like better.
     
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    I think they will sell like hot cakes and the waiting list will be very long!! The main reasons: open air driving, and the sound of the exhaust!!
     
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    I think I may be interested in buying a 4c in the USA. How hard is it going to be to find one? How long will it be till one can be bought (used or new, not ordered) in the USA. Thanks
     
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    Via Maserati and Selected Fiat dealers: Fiat Only Allowing a Few Dealers to Sell the Alfa 4C
     
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    So far, impossible to order.

    They haven't decided which Fiat dealers are going to sell them. Until they do, no dealers can place an order.

    I've tried -- even offered money -- talked directly to the GM--- NOTHING.

    But my feeling is they can be ordered in June for delivery next year.
     
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    #21 deppi0, Mar 4, 2014
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    Here it is: Alfa 4C Spider concept wows in Geneva | Autocar

    I prefer the coupe to be honest even after seeing these pictures. IMO the lights look too generic like this and make the car look less aggressive and less wide.

    Windscreen surround and roll hoops in carbon fibre with a cloth top to save weight.

    For some reason it seems like the interior is slightly different but it's pretty difficult to tell from these pictures

    Anyway looking forward to seeing it in person in Geneva in a few days.
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    Here is the official video presentation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8eZUvjrKf4

    Nice details inside to make it a little more "premium"
    - Carbon surround for the vents
    - Some of the switchgear seems to be in aluminium instead of cheap black plastic
    - The central tunnel seems a little more "premium"

    I have a feeling there are going to be quite a few upgrades made aftermarket to the 4C coupe. I would NOT change the standard lights but the exhaust, carbon fibre engine cover, carbon fibre vent surrounds would be nice additions to my LE when it arrives :)
     
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    #23 selvatico, Mar 4, 2014
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    Just when those headlights were starting to grow on me. :D Oh well, I think it looks even better now.

    Now if we could only get another steering wheel, even as an option. Something thinner like in this old spy photo would look much better imho.
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    Wow I had never seen this picture!

    Love the steering wheel and the dash covered in Alcantara....

    By the way it seems like the 4C Spider has a leather dash with contrast stitching....
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    Enjoy: Press release and high res pics...

    Alfa Romeo 4C Spider preview to debut at Geneva 2014

    • The 'convertible' evolution of Alfa Romeo's award-winning super car to be revealed in Geneva
    • The preview is an exercise in style to select the contents to be implemented in standard production scheduled for the beginning of 2015
    • Exclusive three-layer shiny white livery combined with top-quality leather upholstery
    • Mid-engined rear-wheel drive configuration and a real two-seater concept
    • Study into a dual-stage central exhaust system with titanium and carbon tailpipe
    • Clamshell headlights
    • New differentiated diameter 18" and 19" alloy rims
    • Specific carbon windscreen ring and roll-bar cover
    • Exhilarating performance delivered by the 1750 turbo petrol four cylinder engine and Alfa TCT

    The preview of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider, the convertible evolution of the award-winning coupé launched last year, will be debuting at the 84th International Geneva Motor Show. Characterised by special details and distinctive finishes, the preview is an exercise in style aimed at selecting the contents to be implemented in standard production scheduled for the beginning of next year.

    Spiders have always occupied a prime place in Alfa Romeo's heritage because they are the freest and most emotion-driven expression of motoring. The same spirit is expressed in the preview of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider, the natural evolution of Alfa Romeo's long spider history focused on cars capable of delivering great excitement, outstanding driving satisfaction, striking design and powerful, flexible engines.

    For this reason, the preview inherits all the distinctive winning characteristics of the Alfa Romeo 4C coupé, the brand’s modern icon which represents the essential sportiness embedded in the ‘Alfa Romeo DNA’: performance, Italian style and technical excellence aimed at maximum driving pleasure in total safety.

    Exterior style
    Designed by the Alfa Romeo Style Centre, the mid-engined preview with 2 seats and rear-wheel drive confirms the brand's excellence in this sector as demonstrated by some of its recognisable Spiders, among the most beautiful in the history of the motor world, such as the Giulietta Spider from the 1950s or the mythical Duetto made famous by the film, The Graduate (1967), up to the captivating Alfa Romeo 8C Spider. And now it is the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider's turn to take to the stand by projecting the technological and emotional values that are part of Alfa Romeo's heritage into the future.

    A particular feature of the preview is the exclusive Three-layer Glossy White livery which, with its depth and iridescence, shapes the car, highlighting the sculpted, finely modelled surfaces.

    Over this unmistakably elegant Italian ’attire’ are the specific carbon roll-bar cover and the striking carbon windscreen ring, which combines the concepts of lightness and resistance, in line with Alfa Romeo’s exclusive synthesis of ‘functional beauty’.

    The search for brand-new stylistic solutions can also be seen in the new clamshell headlights, the distinctive differentiated diameter (18" at the front and 19" at the rear) alloy rims and the large Pirelli tyres.

    Interior design
    The elemental design and essential materials also distinguish the interior, which is all designed and built for maximum driving satisfaction. Specifically, the carbon fibre in the interior immediately stands out, used to make the central cell, which has been left in full view to enhance the sense of uniqueness, of technology and light weight. Additionally, to further enhance the unique quality of the spider version, Alfa Romeo’s designers have chosen a particular leather upholstery that results from the finest tradition of Italian craftsmanship.

    Dimensions and aerodynamics
    The preview of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider has a length of approximately 4 metres and a wheelbase of less than 2.4 metres: these dimensions on the one hand emphasise the car’s compact attributes while also accentuating its agility on the other. Owing to the designers’ excellent work, the car achieves maximum aerodynamic efficiency levels, maintaining the downforce of the coupé version, which contributes towards achieving increased stability at higher speeds. What’s more, thanks to in-depth aerodynamic study, it was possible to minimise the air turbulence in the passenger compartment with the soft top open, making for an equally pleasant drive even when maintaining high speeds.

    A spider with limited extra weight thanks to the high-quality materials already used on the coupé
    Thanks to the quality of the ‘4C coupé’ project and its carbon chassis, the 4C Spider too will guarantee a category-leading power/weight ratio with striking performance thanks to a total dry weight of less than 1,000 kg. This is demonstrated by the glass rear window too, which was replaced with a continuation of the bodywork in SMC (Sheet Moulding Compound) which houses the headrests and roll-bars. It must be stressed that low-density SMC, at just 1.5 g/cm³, is significantly lighter than steel (~7.8 g/cm³) and aluminium (~2.7 g/cm³), as well as being more malleable. Also, in contrast to aluminium, it does not deform in minor collisions, and is extremely resistant to chemical and atmospheric agents. It also disperses sound efficiently, increasing acoustic comfort.

    Study into a titanium and carbon exhaust system
    The preview of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider adopts a dual-stage central exhaust system concept with titanium and carbon tailpipes by Akrapovic, a company which produces competition exhaust systems for Moto GP, Superbike, Supersport, Motocross and Enduro. Among its most distinctive features is the electrically operated valve with wireless technology. The study into a ‘dual mode’ exhaust is in full Spider spirit, where the pleasure of driving in the open air can be magnified according to the choice of the driver through a dual exhaust set-up: one more restrained, for more relaxing driving, and one more aggressive, for sports driving.

    Excellent performance with the new ‘4-cylinder’ 1750 Turbo Petrol Alfa TCT
    The power unit of the coupé version is confirmed: the new ‘4-cylinder’ 1750 Turbo Petrol which implements an innovative aluminium block permitting a saving of 22 kg and specific intake and exhaust systems which have been optimised to enhance the sports appeal of the car even further. In addition, it boasts cutting-edge technical solutions including direct fuel injection, dual continuous variable valve timing, a turbocharger and a revolutionary scavenging control system that gets rid of any turbo lag.

    The 1750 Turbo Petrol engine is teamed with the innovative Alfa TCT automatic twin dry clutch transmission, which is a genuine benchmark in its segment due to its limited weight and extreme speed of activation. The gears can also be changed in sequential mode using the “shift paddles” located behind the steering wheel.

    With this equipment, the preview of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider ensures even the most expert driver extraordinary performance and sensations which, on a par with the coupé version, remain at the top of the category both in terms of absolute performance and in terms of handling and driving pleasure.

    Finally, like all the latest-generation Alfa Romeos, the preview of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider as well is equipped with the DNA selector. This device lets the driver change the car's temperament to adapt it to the conditions it is subjected to at the moment. In addition to the three settings available up until today - Dynamic, Natural and All-Weather - the device built for the Alfa Romeo Supercar has a fourth mode: 'Race', designed to enhance the driving experience on a track even further.

    Handling
    In addition to its absolute performance, the handling of the Alfa Romeo 4C Spider preview makes it one of a kind. You can fully enjoy the car in all situations, and not only during extreme use on the track, thanks to its feel and ease of driving at top levels. A specific suspension set-up was developed for the convertible Alfa Romeo, such as to ensure the same feeling and driving pleasure as the 4C Coupé.
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